[ORICON] 59th NHK Kouhaku's Red and White team

[Yum!Fruit_Salad!]

Morning Musume., Arashi, SMAP, WaT, EXILE, ET-KING, and Mr.Children? People with actual talent should have the honour of going.

TOKIO and KUBOKURO? Man, talk about being b*itched slapped twice!

Ayumi, Namie, Ikimono Gakari, Aqua Timez, Keala, chatmonchy, alan, Angela Aki, Perfume, and Ai! The Red Team alone should win from that.

[greggerz189]

Originally Posted by Yum!Fruit_Salad!

Morning Musume., Arashi, SMAP, WaT, EXILE, ET-KING, and Mr.Children? People with actual talent should have the honour of going.

I have to say that I take rather large offense to your implication that industry legends like SMAP and Mr.Children don't have the "actual talent" to "have the honour" of going to Kouhaku. Furthermore, I'd even be as forward as to say that you are either horridly unfamiliar with the Japanese music industry and lack an incredibly elementary perception of its history over the past decade-and-a-half, or you have no idea which characteristics about each of those artists whom you insulted with your comment make them so undoubtedly worthy of being invited to Kouhaku. Let's face it, people have been anxiously waiting for over thirteen years to see Mr.Children perform at the Utagassen, and for very good reason as they so blatantly turn down each invitation which they most certainly receive each year.

Naivete is understandable, yes. But you would do well to do some research on the artists whom you claim to not have the "honour" of being invited to Kouhaku Utagassen before making such rudely incorrect statements.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Yum!Fruit_Salad!

Morning Musume., Arashi, SMAP, WaT, EXILE, ET-KING, and Mr.Children? People with actual talent should have the honour of going.

TOKIO and KUBOKURO? Man, talk about being b*itched slapped twice!

Ayumi, Namie, Ikimono Gakari, Aqua Timez, Keala, chatmonchy, alan, Angela Aki, Perfume, and Ai! The Red Team alone should win from that.

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It's obvious that you don't know much about Japanese music. All of those groups are quite talented in their own ways. And seriously, you wouldn't even be allowed into Japan if you said that Mr. Children were untalented.

I also find it extremely amusing that in one post you manage to call Morning Musume untalented and then praise Perfume for their talent. lol, I like Perfume, but I would never consider them to have more talent then Morning Musume since Perfume is really more of a computer than an actual singing group...

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~

^I'm sorry but I don't know about the others you listed but Arashi, SMAP, EXILE, and Mr. Children ARE talent. I don't know where you've been but Kouhaku has lost its prestigious A LONG TIME AGO. Now the show is just about finding whoever to perform on the show.

Exactly. If it were all about prestige you wouldn't see alan, Kaela, chatmonchy, ikimonogatari, Perfume, etc etc on there. I'm not saying those groups are bad or anything, I like them - but they are far from prestigious.

[greggerz189]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

And seriously, you wouldn't even be allowed into Japan if you said that Mr. Children were untalented.

No joke. I'm so insulted, it's almost beyond words. Totally offensive, really. I adore Mr.Children just about as much as I love Ayu herself. I'd even go as far to say Sakurai-san's lyrics helped me out of some real dark times, like Ayu's. So for someone to call them untalented actually hurts.

Originally Posted by Yum!Fruit_Salad!

Ayumi, Namie, Ikimono Gakari, Aqua Timez, Keala, chatmonchy, alan, Angela Aki, Perfume, and Ai! The Red Team alone should win from that.

And Aqua Timez would be on the Red Team. Just because they have mayuko doesn't place them on the Red Team, if you followed Kouhaku whatsoever. They would be on the White Team because the lead vocal is male. That actually wouldn't even take all that much research, either. It's on the first page of this thread.