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[Ayumi_lover]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Ayumi Lover: It seems like you are trying to find any evidence or reason to point to her not lip syncing. (even saying that Greatful Days at A-nation was only doubling) Most fans, no matter what they hear in concert will report that she didn't lip sync simply because they want to believe that she didn't - I don't fault anyone for that because it is just human nature. Very few people can actually look at their favorite artist objectively when it comes to subjects such as this. I mean just look at hard core Britney Spears fans to this day that deny her lip syncing. But when you have video evidence of her sounding exactly the same on different dates, it's almost impossible to dispel.

The CDL 05/06 thing was during the live tv broadcast of the show, Ayumi was performing Theme of A-Nation. At a certain part, the camera was on her face and she pretty clearly mouths the wrong word, but a completely different sound came out. For the DVD release of the concert Avex used a different camera so that you can't see the mistake.

Well, i don't mind if she lypsynched some songs. I also don't mind if TV perfomances are lypsynched, but i'm totally addicted to LIVE sound so if it is live concert it must be live. For that reason i don't realy like Avex's edited DVD's - they often doesn't looks live, i can give you many examples. but question isn't that.

Problem isn't in that i'm a fan that killing everybody who would say Ayu lypsynched. I think problem in you, maybe you tire from Ayu? or just won't to see her growing. I would show you example

2005 was too except for alterna. (I mean come on she is hanging out of a ball with a bar across her stomach most of the time)

^your words in this thread

And on the other hands your words 2 years ago:
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...7&postcount=26

But she was obviously singing is this LOVE? and (m)U on the headset mic live, so when this DVD comes out and people start saying that she lip sanc alterna(many people probably will say that once they see it), I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and say no, she didn't."

you changed your mind on this question because now you a revealing lyp synch in her new image. But she is just growing as for me. And well about alterna, it also was live as for me because in dvd I can see that her stomach was okay for all perfomance and when she was out of ball that was not stomach, but i don't know these word... mmm.. pelvis????
And yeah, i was fan of sime band which was live-only, but after they made a serie of fully lyp-synched shows i stopped to listen to them, but i still adore their live shows

PS don't mind answering to this if you won't

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Ayumi_lover

Well, i don't mind if she lypsynched some songs. I also don't mind if TV perfomances are lypsynched, but i'm totally addicted to LIVE sound so if it is live concert it must be live. For that reason i don't realy like Avex's edited DVD's - they often doesn't looks live, i can give you many examples. but question isn't that.

Problem isn't in that i'm a fan that killing everybody who would say Ayu lypsynched. I think problem in you, maybe you tire from Ayu? or just won't to see her growing. I would show you example


^your words in this thread

And on the other hands your words 2 years ago:
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...7&postcount=26



you changed your mind on this question because now you a revealing lyp synch in her new image. But she is just growing as for me. And well about alterna, it also was live as for me because in dvd I can see that her stomach was okay for all perfomance and when she was out of ball that was not stomach, but i don't know these word... mmm.. pelvis????
And yeah, i was fan of sime band which was live-only, but after they made a serie of fully lyp-synched shows i stopped to listen to them, but i still adore their live shows

PS don't mind answering to this if you won't

I think you are kind of twisting my words. If you go back and look at anyones post from two years ago, they are going to be at least a bit different than what they think today. All that's clear in that post is that miss Understood and is this Love? were live and that I at least had suspicions at the time that alterna was lip synched, but like most fans just didn't really want to believe it. All I really did was just validate what I was saying in the previous posts - when it's your favorite artists, fans just don't want to believe something that might be negative, myself included sometimes. But when I really look at it objectively, yes, it was most likely lip synched. That's all my years as a fan of Ayu have given me, I haven't become burned out on Ayu (I mean just look at my playlist below, lol), but I have been able to become more objective. I'm not burned out on Ayu or don't want to see her grow, as you put. (who would honestly say that they don't want Ayu to grow?) One of my main issues is that over the last year to two years is that she hasn't really grown; she's stagnant.