[Charts & Rankings] GREEN is already #1 on Chaku-Uta ranking!

[Luv ~Venus~]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

You know that Namie doesn't write nor take a very active part in creating her music (plus she does the poppiest kind of music atm, while Ayu doesn't). Imo, she has never stopped making great music, her career doesn't need saving, not atm

You really can't say that about Namie if your not gonna say that about ayu. If I'm not mistaken Ayu just writes her lyrics not music. =/ These days, it's as if ayu doesn't really care about what she puts out as long as it'll still keep the public interested in her. =/ Imo, her career might not need saving but her music does.

[Coelacanth]

OK let's not use this topic as a thread for diva battles. I don't know why you guys insist on comparing the same female artists all the time. Really, the only thing they all have in common is that they're popular and female. To be fair, they all serve different purposes and have different strengths and weaknesses. You know, kind of like Pokemon..

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Good news! And it's even in front of Hikki's Eternally which has a drama tie-in

Still impressive for hikki though considering that Eternally was released several years ago.

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

Too true! I never feel a personal connection to Namie's music... it just makes me want to dance. She has little to do with how awesome or creative her music is (correct me if I'm wrong, please ) besides the fact she sings and performs it. And judging by the sales of Mirrorcle World, A COMPLETE, and GREEN being #1 on the Chaku-Uta charts with only a CM to promote it, Ayu's career is still vibrant and strong

In defense of Namie, she does write some of her lyrics and in terms of what extent she is involved with the creative side, it is unclear because she generally does not talk about behind the scenes things so its really hard to say.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~

You really can't say that about Namie if your not gonna say that about ayu. If I'm not mistaken Ayu just writes her lyrics not music. =/ These days, it's as if ayu doesn't really care about what she puts out as long as it'll still keep the public interested in her. =/ Imo, her career might not need saving but her music does.

LOL No! Ayu is still the one who takes active control over her MUSIC and not just the lyrics, remember how she explained why she wanted the same composer for Together When.. who did Key? Or how she wanted tasuku to arrange GREEN cuz she wanted a melanholic rock song? Mirrocle World was FAR from POP. And imo Ayu's music is getting better and better and different with each new release, as unlike others you can't really predict what's it gonna sound like.

[*Petit*]

This is great news for a song that emerges slowly but step by step coming off as a great and fresh song.

[Ayumiko]

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~

You really can't say that about Namie if your not gonna say that about ayu. If I'm not mistaken Ayu just writes her lyrics not music. =/ These days, it's as if ayu doesn't really care about what she puts out as long as it'll still keep the public interested in her. =/ Imo, her career might not need saving but her music does.

No besides writing lyrics, she composes under the name crea...but its been awhile since she composed...since Will from 2005. I agree with njanjayrp...ayu takes control over her music.

[Luv ~Venus~]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

LOL No! Ayu is still the one who takes active control over her MUSIC and not just the lyrics, remember how she explained why she wanted the same composer for Together When.. who did Key? Or how she wanted tasuku to arrange GREEN cuz she wanted a melanholic rock song? Mirrocle World was FAR from POP. And imo Ayu's music is getting better and better and different with each new release, as unlike others you can't really predict what's it gonna sound like.

ah okay. No I didn't know about that so I take back what I said earlier about her just writing her lyrics.

Originally Posted by Ayumiko

No besides writing lyrics, she composes under the name crea...but its been awhile since she composed...since Will from 2005. I agree with njanjayrp...ayu takes control over her music.

lol yea, I know about her composing under crea but like you said it's been a while since she's composed her own music.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

In defense of Namie, she does write some of her lyrics and in terms of what extent she is involved with the creative side, it is unclear because she generally does not talk about behind the scenes things so its really hard to say.

Oh thanks, I knew she wrote some lyrics... but I didn't know she was much more involved than that xD;.... Even so, I just don't get the same connection with her as I do with Ayu. That doesn't make her any less of an artist though, I still love her to bits <3. But when I think of Namie's music, I think of hot jams, dance tracks and the occational beautiful ballad... Not much more than that though =/

[tanachu]

Wow! Great news so far

As for the recent discussion, hmm, I didn't know that you couldn't feel a connection to dance tracks. It's not as if those are the only types of songs that Namie does, either. Just because Namie is too shy to say what lyrics she wrote/show her lyrics as opposed to Ayu who lays it all out there with hardcore rock tracks/heartwrenching ballads doesn't mean that Namie's songs aren't representative of her. She wouldn't sing them if they weren't. And, if I'm not mistaken, she took a very active role in producing PLAY. Lyrical writing isn't everything, look at Avril Lavigne. And all of this comparing is making my head hurt omg

[Mitkki]

In other news, GREEN has dropped in rank since that day and is at #6 for the 10/26 ranking (10/25 #4). We'll see where it ends up on the weekly.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by tanachu

Wow! Great news so far

As for the recent discussion, hmm, I didn't know that you couldn't feel a connection to dance tracks. It's not as if those are the only types of songs that Namie does, either. Just because Namie is too shy to say what lyrics she wrote/show her lyrics as opposed to Ayu who lays it all out there with hardcore rock tracks/heartwrenching ballads doesn't mean that Namie's songs aren't representative of her. She wouldn't sing them if they weren't. And, if I'm not mistaken, she took a very active role in producing PLAY. Lyrical writing isn't everything, look at Avril Lavigne. And all of this comparing is making my head hurt omg

Doesn't change the fact I feel nothing

Except maybe when I feel like dancing...

What A Feeling does that to me everytime haha

Originally Posted by *-_Ayu-fan_-*

WOW very good she hits Utada

Umm, the Utada song is also 7 years old...

Originally Posted by tanachu

Wow! Great news so far

As for the recent discussion, hmm, I didn't know that you couldn't feel a connection to dance tracks. It's not as if those are the only types of songs that Namie does, either. Just because Namie is too shy to say what lyrics she wrote/show her lyrics as opposed to Ayu who lays it all out there with hardcore rock tracks/heartwrenching ballads doesn't mean that Namie's songs aren't representative of her. She wouldn't sing them if they weren't. And, if I'm not mistaken, she took a very active role in producing PLAY. Lyrical writing isn't everything, look at Avril Lavigne. And all of this comparing is making my head hurt omg

There is a big difference between someone who writes their songs and someone who doesn't. There is no way you can express your own emotions by singing words that you never even wrote. That's why I have a great deal of respect for artists like Hikki and Ayu because they actually have that talent. Namie, on the other hand, probably just isn't very good at songwriting, which is okay cuz she makes up for it in other ways (nice magazine shoots).

[TITANIC]

Excelent.. Is it the 2nd time she peaked chaku-uta??

[tanachu]

There is a big difference between someone who writes their songs and someone who doesn't.

And tell me just what is this difference and how is it synonymous with good music?

Just because someone writes their lyrics doesn't mean that the quality of music is going to be great. As I said before, take Avril Lavigne. Anyone can write about their feelings on a piece of paper and call it art.

There is no way you can express your own emotions by singing words that you never even wrote.

Says who? Namie has said that she can relate to her lyrics, and as stated before, she does have some songs which she wrote herself, namely "Say the Word". The reason why she doesn't like using her own lyrics is because she's shy and she knows that people will analyze them to know more about her life. Plus she can't do RnB lyrics anyway.

That's why I have a great deal of respect for artists like Hikki and Ayu because they actually have that talent.

So does Namie, but for reasons that I've already stated, she chooses not to write all of her lyrics, and that's fine too. It does not by any means make her music less sincere. Besides, why have respect for Hikki and Ayu for that yet not have respect for Namie for being able to do something that about 95% of other j-pop artists can't do, namely sing and dance exceptionally at the same time? Ayu and Hikki can't do that, guess I need to stop respecting them for what they can't do instead of respecting them for what they CAN do.

Namie, on the other hand, probably just isn't very good at songwriting, which is okay cuz she makes up for it in other ways (nice magazine shoots).

Magazine shoots? What? How about her dancing and singing capabilities?

[jbrat2219]

^ this argument should not be in this thread...

[tanachu]

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

^ this argument should not be in this thread...

Blame the people who brought it up and the ******* that responded to me. ^^

[Melrose]

Originally Posted by tanachu

Wow! Great news so far

As for the recent discussion, hmm, I didn't know that you couldn't feel a connection to dance tracks. It's not as if those are the only types of songs that Namie does, either. Just because Namie is too shy to say what lyrics she wrote/show her lyrics as opposed to Ayu who lays it all out there with hardcore rock tracks/heartwrenching ballads doesn't mean that Namie's songs aren't representative of her. She wouldn't sing them if they weren't. And, if I'm not mistaken, she took a very active role in producing PLAY. Lyrical writing isn't everything, look at Avril Lavigne. And all of this comparing is making my head hurt omg

How do you know she isn't just bad at writing lyrics

LOL No! Ayu is still the one who takes active control over her MUSIC and not just the lyrics, remember how she explained why she wanted the same composer for Together When.. who did Key? Or how she wanted tasuku to arrange GREEN cuz she wanted a melanholic rock song? Mirrocle World was FAR from POP. And imo Ayu's music is getting better and better and different with each new release, as unlike others you can't really predict what's it gonna sound like.

Why DID she want the same composer of key for Together When?

Writing lyrics is what makes music special and not your average mindless dance track, but ok

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by Melrose

Why DID she want the same composer of key for Together When?

Writing lyrics is what makes music special and not your average mindless dance track, but ok

She said that he didn't compose for her since then and she did want him to compose for her a song or two again (ending up with Together When... and untitled ~for her~ compositions) and she thought he would be the perfect composer for both.
It's also brings up again the Duty~GUILTY theme since in Duty kunio tago also composed SCAR so 2 songs composed by him on Duty and 2 on GUILTY XD.

Personally this kunio tago DAMN knows how to compose touching and great ballads.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by tanachu

Says who? Namie has said that she can relate to her lyrics, and as stated before, she does have some songs which she wrote herself, namely "Say the Word". The reason why she doesn't like using her own lyrics is because she's shy and she knows that people will analyze them to know more about her life. Plus she can't do RnB lyrics anyway.

Yeah, I do believe that Namie does have the talent for writing lyrics and she has shown that on the tracks that she does write. But she is intensely private and shy and I think that is the reason she doesn't write lyrics as much or it's highly possible that she does but does not take credit for them.

I do wish that she would write more though since she certainly has the life experience to draw on and some huge tragedies in her life that I think could make for some very moving lyrics - but it seems she would rather keep those feelings private. In a way I admire her for that, even if at the same time I want her to write about them.

Originally Posted by tanachu

So does Namie, but for reasons that I've already stated, she chooses not to write all of her lyrics, and that's fine too. It does not by any means make her music less sincere. Besides, why have respect for Hikki and Ayu for that yet not have respect for Namie for being able to do something that about 95% of other j-pop artists can't do, namely sing and dance exceptionally at the same time?

While I prize great songs and writing more than I do great dancing. I definitely have to give Namie her props here - she is by far the best artist I have seen when it comes to singing and dancing at the same time.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

While I prize great songs and writing more than I do great dancing. I definitely have to give Namie her props here - she is by far the best artist I have seen when it comes to singing and dancing at the same time.

I would say that BoA does it better, but that's just me. But Namie is right behind her.