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Old 19th January 2009, 07:22 PM
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And I guess you missed my point about generalizing "most other languages". That's all I'll say about this.



I disagree. English is pretty warped, but neither of us has the standing to make an assertion like this "NO language on Earth..." And who is "we"? Go do some research before you write something like this. Especially the last line.
Other languages have set rules, and VERY few exceptions to them. English has rules that need to be broken all the time in order to function. I suggest you do some research.
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Old 19th January 2009, 07:24 PM
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Other languages have set rules, and VERY few exceptions to them. English has rules that need to be broken all the time in order to function. I suggest you do some research.
I fear I'll become a broken record if I reply to this. But thanks for responding my initial post to you.

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Old 19th January 2009, 07:27 PM
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Hikki probably feels more comfortable in English because, being born in America, she probably learned it from an early age and was comfortable with it in the way most Americans are. Or were, before the texting and internet age began and the death of the English Language began.

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Old 19th January 2009, 07:30 PM
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Hikki probably feels more comfortable in English because, being born in America, she probably learned it from an early age and was comfortable with it in the way most Americans are. Or were, before the texting and internet age began and the death of the English Language began.
That's true. She has the best of both worlds in a sense then, hehe. But I guess a good amount American pop artists today don't make that much effort to get a song that means something and sounds good. It's like it's only about selling and getting it stuck in someone's head.

That's why I admire the artists that can get songs stuck in my head that actually mean something. I hope Hikki comes through for us in that way, haha.
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Old 19th January 2009, 07:32 PM
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That's true. She has the best of both worlds in a sense then, hehe. But I guess a good amount American pop artists today don't make that much effort to get a song that means something and sounds good. It's like it's only about selling and getting it stuck in someone's head.

That's why I admire the artists that can get songs stuck in my head that actually mean something. I hope Hikki comes through for us in that way, haha.
Thank you! That's all I want, too!
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Hikki probably feels more comfortable in English because, being born in America, she probably learned it from an early age and was comfortable with it in the way most Americans are. Or were, before the texting and internet age began and the death of the English Language began.



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I actually edited my post to be a bit more diplomatic towards you, but it really wasn't needed. But I think if you actually take me up on my suggestion, you will see that you have a lot to learn. Your comment about the "death of the English language" says how much this is needed. No, thank you for playing!
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Old 19th January 2009, 07:36 PM
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I actually edited my post to be a bit more diplomatic towards you, but it really wasn't needed. But I think if you actually take me up on my suggestion, you will see that you have a lot to learn. Your comment about the "death of the English language" says how much this is needed. No, thank you for playing!
I'd listen, but see, I have this thing about listening to trolls spouting nonsense. I don't listen to them.
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Old 19th January 2009, 07:43 PM
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I'd listen, but see, I have this thing about listening to trolls spouting nonsense. I don't listen to them.
I am not a troll spouting nonsense. I clearly explained the weaknesses of your points in a logical fashion. I am not trying to stir up a futile argument. Really, a lot of your points are not facts, like kang daesung has said. You are only making yourself look a fool to people who have some knowledge of linguistics.

/already OT by the time I posted! Sorry!/
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Old 19th January 2009, 07:39 PM
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Hikki probably feels more comfortable in English because, being born in America, she probably learned it from an early age and was comfortable with it in the way most Americans are. Or were, before the texting and internet age began and the death of the English Language began.



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Well that was a pretty distasteful way to bring that whole conversational tangent to a close now wasn't it?

And English (as well as any other language) "dies" several times with the advent of any new medium of communication. Apparently, it's very very dead.

BACK TO HIKKI, SHALL WE? I think I like the verses of Come Back to Me but the chorus really isn't doing it. I think she'll need to take some risks to make a splash stateside. I have a feeling the rest of the album will be a little more interesting because surely Hikki wouldn't permit a whole album of Come Back to Me's under her name?
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BACK TO HIKKI, SHALL WE? I think I like the verses of Come Back to Me but the chorus really isn't doing it. I think she'll need to take some risks to make a splash stateside. I have a feeling the rest of the album will be a little more interesting because surely Hikki wouldn't permit a whole album of Come Back to Me's under her name?
After a few listens I've realized I like the verses a lot more too! I wish the chorus was up to par though...
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BACK TO HIKKI, SHALL WE? I think I like the verses of Come Back to Me but the chorus really isn't doing it. I think she'll need to take some risks to make a splash stateside. I have a feeling the rest of the album will be a little more interesting because surely Hikki wouldn't permit a whole album of Come Back to Me's under her name?
I think we can trust Hikki to surprise us. I mean, none of her albums so far have the same sound throughout, so "Come Back To Me" might be a black sheep of sorts

She doesn't want to be known as someone who just produces one type of song, so she won't permit it! xD
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Old 19th January 2009, 07:59 PM
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I think we can trust Hikki to surprise us. I mean, none of her albums so far have the same sound throughout, so "Come Back To Me" might be a black sheep of sorts

She doesn't want to be known as someone who just produces one type of song, so she won't permit it! xD
Yes! There's always variety on her albums (although people who didn't like HS tended to call it "samey") I don't think we should expect a whole album of similar songs -- there really isn't any consistent prior evidence. I'm really excited to see the direction this album will take.

I'm also telling myself to not really expect anything so there will be minimal disappointment (it's worked for me ever since I became enough a fan to track her releases). But It's kind of hard for me not to feel a bit anxious whenever I'm reminded that she worked with Stargate because we all know she can do much better than a song like Come Back To Me. She doesn't do generic very well (I think she does have her own musical personality).

Also, I don't think the production value on Exodus is cheap when listening to it without a comparison. But compared with Ultra Blue, there is a huge difference. They were mastered by the same company, but with different mastering guy. But I have a feeling you're talking about something different... Do you mean different arrangement?

And LOL @ the "overrated", "emperor/queen of japan" tags. I wonder how many we'll have before the album is released!

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