Rule / Sparkle lyrics - Page 4

Melrose · #61 1st February 2009, 03:05 PM

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No, I was wondering myself if it was one verb.
I like to translate the songs myself to learn them and wasn't sure. ^^
I just haven't seen the -rareta ending before so I got confused.

Aga-chan · #62 1st February 2009, 03:09 PM

^Yes, it's 決める (kimeru).　決められた (kimerareta) is either past potential or past passive. In this case it's the later, because someone else decided the rules.

Kazeyomi · #63 1st February 2009, 03:17 PM

These lyrics are a little bit odd..not for translation just for composition XD

Anyway thanks a lot for the lyrics and translations ^_^

maikaru · #64 1st February 2009, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melrose

This era is not yet the thing that we abandoned.

^
what is that sentence about
Can someone explain?

I find both songs to have rather weak and odd verses... :/

@maikaru:

kime rareta
isn't that one verb? kimeru?

omg!! -_-)
I made a mistake.
That line should be "This world is not yet the thing that we abandoned."
I will change it.
I got carried away by it.. ahaha.

It's one verb, kimeru. The romanization is a bit off, because that should be just one word. rareru is passive form of kimeru kind of verbs.

Usually when we are gonna to say kimerareta, it always means "decided by someone for us."
Kimereru is usually the accepted form for potentials.

Anyways, the sentence is kind of weird in english, because I dont think this kind of thing even exists in english.

The lines says like.. I will break down for you:

こんな世界もまだまだ捨てたもんじゃない
こんな世界 = This world
まだまだ＝ Not yet/still/still long aways/ that kind of thing.
捨てた = Threw Away (past tense)
もんじゃない = Not the thing.

So if you put it together in english.. it says like.

This world is not yet the thing that we threw away/abandoned/etc.

I dont know how to explain it at all in english.. sorry. -__-
It's a bit complicated.

Emperatriz Ayumi · #65 1st February 2009, 03:53 PM

Thanks for sharing!!!

Where did you get SPARKLE lyrics??

aqua_crystal · #66 1st February 2009, 05:36 PM

Thanks!! I wnat the translated lyrics soon~~

EDIT: Just saw them, thanks!!

Chibi_Venus · #67 1st February 2009, 09:37 PM

Woot! Thank you so much!!

Yum!Fruit_Salad! · #68 1st February 2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru

It's one verb, kimeru. The romanization is a bit off, because that should be just one word. rareru is passive form of kimeru kind of verbs.

Usually when we are gonna to say kimerareta, it always means "decided by someone for us."
Kimereru is usually the accepted form for potentials.

I didn't know about the passive form. Fixed the romaji so it's more accurate then before. Thanks for the info on the passive, helped me a bit.

Delirium-Zer0 · #69 2nd February 2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru

Delirium~
I hope you dont find it rude at all..
I just wanna to make some corrections about your translation.
It's good~ just there's a few mistakes in translation, like using passive tones, and those kinds of things.
I made my own, and maybe we could combine thems to make some new one?~ ^^)

Don't find it rude at all

I have never made any illusions about the fact that my Japanese basically sucks. I only translated the lyrics cuz no one had yet, and I needed the practice.

The parts of your translations that are drastically different are actually the parts i had the most trouble with, so thank you actually! I do have some thoughts on interpretation though, but I'll go through them and pick it apart, ask questions, etc. later on, because... well, the super bowl is on now. XD