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Old 14th February 2009, 02:35 PM
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i want to hear Sparkle too!!!!! *-*

the beat of the chorus is making me crazyyyyyyyy
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

i wanna have it NOW xD



about the lyrics thing, theres nothing wrong with ayu being more sexy and superficial!

if you want me to remain you guys that you like koda kumi, leah dizon, Sifow, and many other girls just with songs like that
Well.. seeing as how I really hate those three because of this reason..

Yeah, I just feel like she was always praised for writing such in depth and thoughtful lyrics,
And I feel shallow lyrics are not her at all.. at least, not what she built her artist image to be.

These lyrics are very different ... and it is shocking to some people... ahaha.

And I dont really think it matters if someone likes koda kumi or leah dizon and complains about this.

People listen to Ayumi because her lyrics are meaningful.
If we continued to expect something from her, and she did something like make these lyrics..
It's very different, and not used to it.
People listen who listen to Koda Kumi and Ayu and are complaining, I understand why.
They listen to Koda Kumi for one reason, and Ayu anothers.
If Ayu just simply copies a style of erotic lyrics in the way of Koda Kumi,
It's weird, and says "oh.. so if she will do it in Koda Kumi style, whats the difference?"

I dont know... but I feel uncomfortable with these lyrics.
To me, they are not the mature and insightful Ayumi from the past..
It's an image thing.

Like for example, from the sample "lyrics" posted in 2 channel.
They claim that to describe boys and girls,
They use 雌 (mesu) and 雄 (osu), which is soooo weird to me, because she NEVER used that.
They are slang for boys and girls, but so.. hard and rough, and a little unbelievable.

So instead of
可愛いBoys達と
今夜だけはgirls達も
強がりはおやすみ

The sample lyrics being posted many times are:

可愛い雄達と
今夜だけは雌達も
強がりはおやすみ

and like that.

It was a complete shock... ahaha.
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Old 14th February 2009, 02:56 PM
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Well.. seeing as how I really hate those three because of this reason..

Yeah, I just feel like she was always praised for writing such in depth and thoughtful lyrics,
And I feel shallow lyrics are not her at all.. at least, not what she built her artist image to be.

These lyrics are very different ... and it is shocking to some people... ahaha.

And I dont really think it matters if someone likes koda kumi or leah dizon and complains about this.

People listen to Ayumi because her lyrics are meaningful.
If we continued to expect something from her, and she did something like make these lyrics..
It's very different, and not used to it.
People listen who listen to Koda Kumi and Ayu and are complaining, I understand why.
They listen to Koda Kumi for one reason, and Ayu anothers.
If Ayu just simply copies a style of erotic lyrics in the way of Koda Kumi,
It's weird, and says "oh.. so if she will do it in Koda Kumi style, whats the difference?"

I dont know... but I feel uncomfortable with these lyrics.
To me, they are not the mature and insightful Ayumi from the past..
It's an image thing.

Like for example, from the sample "lyrics" posted in 2 channel.
They claim that to describe boys and girls,
They use 雌 (mesu) and 雄 (osu), which is soooo weird to me, because she NEVER used that.
They are slang for boys and girls, but so.. hard and rough, and a little unbelievable.

So instead of
可愛いBoys達と
今夜だけはgirls達も
強がりはおやすみ

The sample lyrics being posted many times are:

可愛い雄達と
今夜だけは雌達も
強がりはおやすみ

and like that.

It was a complete shock... ahaha.

lol well... what can i say lol

fair enough! is what you feel and its ok...



but ayu being sexual is ok for me, and its just a song, its called marketing lol lets see if sexy ayu sells more lol

maybe the full album will be like that, who knows


but after all, she wont be "sexual" for ever, shes getting older and, i prefer her being sexy right now than when shes 45 lol


shes awesome and she proves that she can do ANYTHING, something that others cant, like koda kumi for example, that girl cant be cute i believe... but meh


so yea, a sexy song wont kill my "fanness" lol
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Old 14th February 2009, 03:07 PM
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maybe the full album will be like that, who knows
i was thinking that too. it said her lyrics style will be different in the album.. maybe she'll be exploring her sexual side more
lol i bet maikaru just had a heart attack
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Old 14th February 2009, 03:09 PM
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i was thinking that too. it said her lyrics style will be different in the album.. maybe she'll be exploring her sexual side more
lol i bet maikaru just had a heart attack
i know right?

i actually want the album to be like that lol when (don't) leave me alone came out, i was like wow! she needs to do more stuff like that xDD girly and sexy more dance too

i hope she keeps it sexy and girly but clean something that other singers can't keep lol
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Old 14th February 2009, 03:54 PM
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i was thinking that too. it said her lyrics style will be different in the album.. maybe she'll be exploring her sexual side more
lol i bet maikaru just had a heart attack
there is a source that said new lyrical style?
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Old 14th February 2009, 04:09 PM
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there is a source that said new lyrical style?
yeah it says on her official site http://www.avexnet.or.jp/ayu/jp/news/090212.html
the green text at the top~
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Old 14th February 2009, 04:24 PM
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yeah it says on her official site http://www.avexnet.or.jp/ayu/jp/news/090212.html
the green text at the top~
That's not really what it says~here is a part mentioning the lyrics:
Lyrics, singing, arranging, and adding a new element to all the songs, the sublimation of the past 10 years. Continue to evolve to the next stage..
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Old 14th February 2009, 07:19 PM
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i wouldn't mind naughty lyrics. i just hope she won't perform in a thong and a bra.


i love ayu mostly because of her meaningful lyrics but maybe she just wants to have fun after 10 years.


and don't most women become more "sexual" when they hit 30?.. i think i saw that on oprah haha XD
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Old 14th February 2009, 05:49 PM
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i was thinking that too. it said her lyrics style will be different in the album.. maybe she'll be exploring her sexual side more
lol i bet maikaru just had a heart attack
I have to make it clear that Ourselves, Step YOU, and all those songs that were brought up here cannot compare to these lyrics.
Even then, those songs had very clear, and very mature and great meanings.

It's hard to correctly express what the feeling is of these lyrics.
For example, She uses very vulgar words for male and female,
And it feels like.. very disconnected from everything she has ever done before.
It's surprising, and a little disappointing for me, and a lot of my friends too..

I think it's hard to correctly express why these lyrics are awkward,
Because even if you translate the lyrics, these words sound so normal in English I think.
But the words and lyrics that this "sample" uses..
Its too unlike her.

But of course, I know quite well that some people here like these sexual and vulgar things, so of course I know what I say will be ridiculed about it..
I don't mind.

I just feel like the artist that Hamasaki built up until now, is completely different from these Sparkle lyrics.
And since she said there's no lies in her lyrics, then this must be the new her.
And.. yeah, for me, it's too much.
The integrity of her artistic expressions seem to be breaking down for me,
If she turns to these kinds of cheap songs.

The reason why I dont listen to those Koda Kumi and her clones..
Is because I hate that kind of things.
And now, if she becomes writing this lyrics..

Well, I guess I will just have to listen to her old things.
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Old 14th February 2009, 06:29 PM
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I have to make it clear that Ourselves, Step YOU, and all those songs that were brought up here cannot compare to these lyrics.
Even then, those songs had very clear, and very mature and great meanings.

It's hard to correctly express what the feeling is of these lyrics.
For example, She uses very vulgar words for male and female,
And it feels like.. very disconnected from everything she has ever done before.
It's surprising, and a little disappointing for me, and a lot of my friends too..

I think it's hard to correctly express why these lyrics are awkward,
Because even if you translate the lyrics, these words sound so normal in English I think.
But the words and lyrics that this "sample" uses..
Its too unlike her.

But of course, I know quite well that some people here like these sexual and vulgar things, so of course I know what I say will be ridiculed about it..
I don't mind.

I just feel like the artist that Hamasaki built up until now, is completely different from these Sparkle lyrics.
And since she said there's no lies in her lyrics, then this must be the new her.
And.. yeah, for me, it's too much.
The integrity of her artistic expressions seem to be breaking down for me,
If she turns to these kinds of cheap songs.

The reason why I dont listen to those Koda Kumi and her clones..
Is because I hate that kind of things.
And now, if she becomes writing this lyrics..

Well, I guess I will just have to listen to her old things.
I don't think it's as big of a deal as you put it, it's one song! And we're not even 100% sure about the lyrics yet. So I'd be patient and see how it turns out. Not to mention, she may not continue down this route. This may be her one and only erotic song.
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Old 14th February 2009, 06:37 PM
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I have to make it clear that Ourselves, Step YOU, and all those songs that were brought up here cannot compare to these lyrics.
Even then, those songs had very clear, and very mature and great meanings.

It's hard to correctly express what the feeling is of these lyrics.
For example, She uses very vulgar words for male and female,
And it feels like.. very disconnected from everything she has ever done before.
It's surprising, and a little disappointing for me, and a lot of my friends too..

I think it's hard to correctly express why these lyrics are awkward,
Because even if you translate the lyrics, these words sound so normal in English I think.
But the words and lyrics that this "sample" uses..
Its too unlike her.

But of course, I know quite well that some people here like these sexual and vulgar things, so of course I know what I say will be ridiculed about it..
I don't mind.

I just feel like the artist that Hamasaki built up until now, is completely different from these Sparkle lyrics.
And since she said there's no lies in her lyrics, then this must be the new her.
And.. yeah, for me, it's too much.
The integrity of her artistic expressions seem to be breaking down for me,
If she turns to these kinds of cheap songs.

The reason why I dont listen to those Koda Kumi and her clones..
Is because I hate that kind of things.
And now, if she becomes writing this lyrics..

Well, I guess I will just have to listen to her old things.
wow. i'm really sorry that this is upsetting you so much because it really shouldn't. no offense but i think you need to get over it..
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Old 14th February 2009, 07:29 PM
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ほらそこで燻っているかわいいBoys達と
今夜だけはGirls達も強がりはおやすみ

体で感じて心のままに

(わからない)

そんな時はただbeatに身を任せればいい

眺めるだけじゃ始まらない
君のものにはならない
いつまでそこでそうやって指を咥えてるつもり?
No no no...

守りに入らないで攻撃的に見せてみて
可能だとか不可能だとか
どこの誰のものさし

もっと大胆に騒々しいほど

後になって悔むなんて
在り来たりな話々

聞こえてるこのbeatに従えば間違いない

中途半端じゃ伝わらない
触れてみなきゃ分からない
いつまでそこでそうやって怖気づいてるつもり?
No no no...

眺めるだけじゃ始まらない
君のものにはならない
いつまでそこでそうやって指を咥えてるつもり?

中途半端じゃ伝わらない
触れてみなきゃ分からない
いつまでそこでそうやって怖気づいてるつもり?
No no no...
~The latest lyrics of 'Sparkle' I could find. The first version I posted was missing the first line or something.

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I just feel like the artist that Hamasaki built up until now, is completely different from these Sparkle lyrics.
And since she said there's no lies in her lyrics, then this must be the new her.
And.. yeah, for me, it's too much.
The integrity of her artistic expressions seem to be breaking down for me,
If she turns to these kinds of cheap songs.
I see where you're coming from. If Ayu turned completely 'ero' I'd be pretty turned off as well, but I don't think that's the route she's going. It's also different for most of us because we don't understand Japanese or pay attention to the lyrics while we're listening to the song.

I think a lot of people would agree that her lyrics seem to have been getting repetitive. Maybe in 'NEXT LEVEL' she'll tackle more subjects in her lyrics that she hasn't before. I don't think we should jump to the conclusion that she's completely changing her musical direction. But you never know, don't women reach their sexual peak at age 30?

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and don't most women become more "sexual" when they hit 30?.. i think i saw that on oprah haha XD
LMAO. Guess you beat me to it.

Last edited by Coelacanth; 14th February 2009 at 07:32 PM.
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Old 14th February 2009, 07:36 PM
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But you never know, don't women reach their sexual peak at age 30?
Well, Ayu has to be true to her lyrics
If she's at her sexual peak, I wouldn't want her to restrain it

Thanks for the new lyrics
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