[Charts & Rankings] A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ -4th Oricon Thread- INTRO TO 800,000 - Page 25

rakeru · #**481** 11th February 2009, 04:57 AM

psh, i'm liking this new 964k. we need a sudden burst and get to one million! it should now be required to own AC!

ALfromHELLSING · #**482** 11th February 2009, 09:22 AM

Wow! I hope 964k for A COMPLETE is true!! Damn, why not 1M? (T_T) It was so close to it... Still I think that 964k is GREAT! Congrats Ayu!

rookies · #**483** 11th February 2009, 11:43 AM

I still think she can break 1 mill by the summertime.

njanjayrp · #**484** 11th February 2009, 12:26 PM

They would most likely ship a million copies of AC, and not 964k xD Keep in mind that Oricon doesn't work with all the stores in Japan (nor with YA and they do sell the ***. versions).

Melon Panda · #**485** 13th February 2009, 06:50 AM

That's a really good number. Perhaps a million is still possible after all? (Sometime far in the distance.)

ayuinh.k? · #**486** 14th February 2009, 04:45 AM

if only oricon counted yesasia' sale T____T

rakeru · #**487** 16th February 2009, 10:30 PM

^ why don't they? is there a specific reason, or just pure laziness?

Raleigh · #**488** 16th February 2009, 10:33 PM

Well YA is not based in Japan so I assume that's why the sales don't count.

SolarAngel · #**489** 17th February 2009, 04:52 AM

But does the source Yesasia get ayu stuff from register with Oricon? Maybe oricon doesn't include yesasia because it would result in double-counting. Really hope she gets the million certificate from RIAJ for A Complete. At least A Complete sales improved by 7 copies from last week lol...

ALfromHELLSING · #**490** 17th February 2009, 08:48 AM

^They need to count yesasia & play-asia sales as well!
Maybe she already has 1M!!

lfe. · #**491** 17th February 2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel

But does the source Yesasia get ayu stuff from register with Oricon? Maybe oricon doesn't include yesasia because it would result in double-counting. Really hope she gets the million certificate from RIAJ for A Complete. At least A Complete sales improved by 7 copies from last week lol...

Perhaps YA just is lazy to give sales info to Avex. They're headquartered in Hong Kong and their business is Japanese as well as Chinese & Korean music. I'd assume they have other things to worry about.

marekcarey · #**492** 17th February 2009, 10:25 AM

125　102　**1,190　*,840,839　*22　浜崎あゆみ「A COMPLETE ～ALL SINGLES～」

keikeiaznqueen · #**493** 17th February 2009, 10:27 AM

Laziness is definitely not the reason I think. If Yesasia were to be counted, the only way to do that would be that Yesasia's stock source is counted.

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel

But does the source Yesasia get ayu stuff from register with Oricon? Maybe oricon doesn't include yesasia because it would result in double-counting. Really hope she gets the million certificate from RIAJ for A Complete. At least A Complete sales improved by 7 copies from last week lol...

It's not just double-counting either, because oricon only registers sales within Japan (with CDJapan being the exception?). There's actually a really good chance that YA sales are counted because the source that they stock from is counted in oricon. Even if they are not counted within oricon, YA will be counted in the Avex sales index, unless YA gets their stock illegally. XD

The A COMPLETE sales have been very good.

**ayumisrael** · #**494** 17th February 2009, 12:15 PM

^Oricon counts sales from CDJapan, it doesn't count yesasia though.
Everything enters to avex trax's shipping numbers most likely ^^.

It seems that A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ is still doing great =D

lfe. · #**495** 17th February 2009, 08:14 PM

Online businesses like CDJapan and YA are going to stock up on their merchandise so they can ship it out as soon as a customer makes an order, or else delivery would take insane amount of time. It doesn't count as actual sales. CDJapan most likely goes a bit further by reporting to Oricon the number of orders they are getting from their customers weekly, and that amount is added to the index sales. The units they still have in their warehouse aren't counted until they are sold.

Avex most likely had different numbers because they are estimating the amount of stock units sold to YA. The difference is approx 124k. YA definitely did not order 124k units of D/G all at once

. Avex is likely estimating based off their last stock purchase with YA so I would say its pretty accurate

jbrat2219 · #**496** 18th February 2009, 04:50 AM

Looks like A COMPLETE is doing really well!... I wish YesAsia's sales counted directly towards Oricon though... It's rather odd that HMV doesn't consider it is actually A STORE IN JAPAN hahahaha xD;

waterballoon · #**497** 18th February 2009, 08:52 AM

A COMPLETE has amazing sales oh yeah!

SolarAngel · #**498** 18th February 2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lfebaggins

Online businesses like CDJapan and YA are going to stock up on their merchandise so they can ship it out as soon as a customer makes an order, or else delivery would take insane amount of time. It doesn't count as actual sales. CDJapan most likely goes a bit further by reporting to Oricon the number of orders they are getting from their customers weekly, and that amount is added to the index sales. The units they still have in their warehouse aren't counted until they are sold.

Sorry to get so technical but this topic interests me. CdJapan is headquartered in Japan right? So giving figures to Oricon would be easier and as keikeiaznqueen suggests, they only accept Japan office figures. I think just about every music store and CdJapan as well sells on a consignment basis, that's why there's a price tagged on virtually every J-press album and they only count end-consumer sales.

Whereas for YA, they have already purchased the stock from a Japanese company so that Japanese source could have reported the copies sold to YA to Oricon or what I've just said is moot and YA just can't be bothered to give figures. I think it's likely that YA has ownership rights to the J-press stuff because they are situated in HK which would make consignment a little complicated and they can jack up the prices as they like. If that's the case, then they really shouldn't be giving figures to Oricon. They ARE the figures to oricon.

And yay, A Complete is still in the 4-digit range. But it's out of top 100

lfe. · #**499** 18th February 2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolarAngel

Sorry to get so technical but this topic interests me. CdJapan is headquartered in Japan right? So giving figures to Oricon would be easier and as keikeiaznqueen suggests, they only accept Japan office figures. I think just about every music store and CdJapan as well sells on a consignment basis, that's why there's a price tagged on virtually every J-press album and they only count end-consumer sales.

Whereas for YA, they have already purchased the stock from a Japanese company so that Japanese source could have reported the copies sold to YA to Oricon or what I've just said is moot and YA just can't be bothered to give figures. I think it's likely that YA has ownership rights to the J-press stuff because they are situated in HK which would make consignment a little complicated and they can jack up the prices as they like. If that's the case, then they really shouldn't be giving figures to Oricon. They ARE the figures to oricon.

Who knows, I guess the only answer could be if you ask Yesasia directly. All I got from a little bit of digging is that Oricon only counts end-consumer sales from Japanese stores and online sites that are based in Japan like CDJapan/HMV/Tower/Amazon/Neowing