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Old 30th January 2009, 10:16 AM
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I find western pop culture overall overrated.
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i think a lot of rock groups are overrated.
nickleback needs to crawl into a whole and die. they can take acdc with them too.

i also think leona lewis is not all she's hyped up to be.
i think she does have a great voice, with impressive range and all that.
but i just HATE the way she sings. its just too much.

and yeah, most of the pop people mentioned are overrated too.
rihanna cant sing, but has a good image and some catchy tunes.
justin timberlake bores me to tears.
madonna is kind of annoying at times, but i like how her albums are very thorough and solid.
coldplay is soooo self indulgent. ~_~ just go away and sing to yourself already.
we wont miss you.
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in the moment beyonce.
but last year was definately rihanna lol.

i can think of huge number of overrated artists, im too lazy lol.
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Any boybands
any girl bands also
Koda Kumi = can't believe someone said she sings as good as Mariah and most of her music bores me to death (I like Butterfly and Taboo a lot... and Cutie Honey too... but it's a cover and I knew the song long before)
Mika Nakashima = she looks like someone with cancer... her singing have no emotion and she is a terrible singing live (but you can finally feel the emotion when she feels pain trying to reach the high notes)
Aiko

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Rihanna = Can't sing, can't dance, low charisma... why is she famous at all?
Kate Perry = Can't sing, can't dance, low charisma... why is she famous at all?²
Hilary Duff = Can't sing, can't dance, low charisma... why is she famous at all?³
Christina Aguilera = Yeah, she is an amazing singer... but her music is so.... meh...
Mariah Carrey = Don't know... maybe I just don't like her personality (and her music)


And I agree that Madonna, U2, Michael Jackson, The Beatles, etc aren't very overrated cause they influenced almost all pop acts we have today at some level... Even if I don't like The Beatles....
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I've been thinking for a while that...omg all I hear on the radio these days in Rhianna...

I totally missed her becoming so popular. But I think her voice is unique...so that's why they chose to market her.

But anyway...at the thread at TN, I recently expressed that I felt Namie Amuro was overrated.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE her new stuff. But how anyone can enjoy her stuff pre-STYLE...is beyond me. And she was HUGE...

so I guess music was just that different back then...and I'm just not into it or something...
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I never understand how people can say "This list of singers cant sing" ... its always strange to me lol ~! I mean like maybe you don't like their voice or something but they're a singer for a reason right? I dunno just my opinion XD even I say some singers cant sing sometimes out of impulse but i guess in the end I know that they can outsing me anyday : P lol! (of course excluding certain people who use money to get where they are)

overrated .. I'd have to say:

Koda Kumi: I don't see anything special about her or her music
Rihanna: All of her singles from Good Girl Gone Bad sound the same to me and yet they all did well
Miley Cyrus: Nothing special, infact I really dislike her voice and I think she's ugly... XD
Akon: Another singer who's voice and songs I find annoying
50 Cent : I dislike his rap, and his personality
(list of other rappers that fall under the same category because their raps are all the same)
Maki Goto : I just felt that MM made her seem so much better than she is
Simple Plan : I dislike their songs maybe that was due to an influence from my friend and her choice of "emo" songs lol
Justin Timberlake : I still don't like sexyback... and the more songs i hear from him the more similar they seem to get XD

Thats all I can remember for now XD
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I never understand how people can say "This list of singers cant sing" ... its always strange to me lol ~! I mean like maybe you don't like their voice or something but they're a singer for a reason right? I dunno just my opinion XD even I say some singers cant sing sometimes out of impulse but i guess in the end I know that they can outsing me anyday : P lol! (of course excluding certain people who use money to get where they are)
Well... to be a good singer everybody needs to take some vocal training... There are a lot of pop performers that don't really know how to breath, how to use his/her voice, how to sing while moving, how to project his/her voice...
Most of pop singers aren't amazing vocalists and don't have great voices... their voices don't have good range (like... their high and low notes aren't very high and very low compared to their mid-notes) and don't have much potence (they can't sing "loud") but even so, can use it good enough for their own songs... Ayu, Hikki, Namie, Madonna, Kylie, Gwen, etc. aren't stunning singers... But they learned how to take good use of their voices, so, even if they are not amazing vocalists, they are medium or good ones... (like... 3 of 5 stars ).

Rihanna, Avril, Kate Perry, Mika, Koda, Ai Otsuka, Britney... they all aren't very good (0 to 2 stars :B), but even so, they can improve a lot if they take some effort on it (Avril's singing is really better now than it used to be... Koda is improving with time too... Ayumi was terrible back in her 1998-2002 era)

Some amazing vocalists would be... Alan, Ayaka, Ayaka Hirahara, Shimatani, Christina, Beyonce, Celine, Mariah, Kate Hudson... even if I don't like their music or voices (Christina and Mariah, don't like their voices at all), I can't say they are bad singers... Cause they nearly aways are amazing vocalists

By the way... Being a good vocalist is not only about singing in a beautiful way... If the singer keeps singing without any coaching, he/she can damage his/her voice for good... Ayu lost her voice past year because of this at AT08, remember? ^^
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Well... to be a good singer everybody needs to take some vocal training... There are a lot of pop performers that don't really know how to breath, how to use his/her voice, how to sing while moving, how to project his/her voice...
Most of pop singers aren't amazing vocalists and don't have great voices... their voices don't have good range (like... their high and low notes aren't very high and very low compared to their mid-notes) and don't have much potence (they can't sing "loud") but even so, can use it good enough for their own songs... Ayu, Hikki, Namie, Madonna, Kylie, Gwen, etc. aren't stunning singers... But they learned how to take good use of their voices, so, even if they are not amazing vocalists, they are medium or good ones... (like... 3 of 5 stars ).

Rihanna, Avril, Kate Perry, Mika, Koda, Ai Otsuka, Britney... they all aren't very good (0 to 2 stars :B), but even so, they can improve a lot if they take some effort on it (Avril's singing is really better now than it used to be... Koda is improving with time too... Ayumi was terrible back in her 1998-2002 era)

Some amazing vocalists would be... Alan, Ayaka, Ayaka Hirahara, Shimatani, Christina, Beyonce, Celine, Mariah, Kate Hudson... even if I don't like their music or voices (Christina and Mariah, don't like their voices at all), I can't say they are bad singers... Cause they nearly aways are amazing vocalists

By the way... Being a good vocalist is not only about singing in a beautiful way... If the singer keeps singing without any coaching, he/she can damage his/her voice for good... Ayu lost her voice past year because of this at AT08, remember? ^^
I think this is a matter of opinion XD Like I REALLY think Utada Hikaru has AMAZING vocals. I'm actually really surprised you said her vocals aren't good. Same for Namie. And personally I think Utada hikaru's vocals are like a lot better than alan's. Like IMO when alan hits her chorus in ashita he no sanka, her voice does NOT sound good, it might be strong, but when she tries to hit that high note its not lovely IMO and on top of that I feel liek she sounds like a lot of chinese singers out there who don't get appreciated like she does( This is just my opinion don't flame me for it). I agree with you that there are some singers that DEFINITELY have amazing vocals, but that doesn't mean other singers don't have good vocals. They are just not as superior as mariah's or christina's.

Ayu is actually another example of why I think its an opinion. You say she's better than ai otsuka and koda kumi, but she damaged her voice from improper singing, while the other two are fine. Sure she has more years on them, but like her lives now can sometimes be atrocious while namie, koda kumi, and ai are fine. I just included namie to prove that years doesn't mean ur voice should die. But like aiko is another example anyways. She's been in the industry as long as ayu but her vocals are fine!

If you think a singer has good vocals, thats your opinion, and if you think another singer has bad vocals thats fine. lol : ) I'm just stating my opinion that its more about how people percieve it. Of course there are people with bad vocals but I think most singers have good vocals and thats why they're singing. We just don't appreciate some vocalists because we don't like the sound of their voice.
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Hmm among non Asian people I think alan is way too over-rated, and Japanese Visual Kei bands, I can't seem to get a good idea why many girls (out side of Asia of course) love them that much, they dress like women with extremely bad taste and their music is quite generic and stupid, well I guess the fact that most of their fans are younger than 15 explains a lot xD

As for Japan, I think that ayaka is way too over-rated, she has an amazing voice, her songs are good at times, but her music is mostly plain and boring pop.
EXILE - way too generic for me to handle, their songs contain way too many random english lines which barely make sense.
KAT-TUN - sure they do have a few catchy songs, but I don't really see why people like them, they don't even look good.
aiko - I have nothing against her, but she is among people I find boring.
I personally find Hikaru over-rated as well sometimes, but since I might get in trouble for saying why, I'll leave it at that.

As for the non Asian music scene, I have no comment xD
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I think this is a matter of opinion XD Like I REALLY think Utada Hikaru has AMAZING vocals. I'm actually really surprised you said her vocals aren't good. Same for Namie. And personally I think Utada hikaru's vocals are like a lot better than alan's. Like IMO when alan hits her chorus in ashita he no sanka, her voice does NOT sound good, it might be strong, but when she tries to hit that high note its not lovely IMO and on top of that I feel liek she sounds like a lot of chinese singers out there who don't get appreciated like she does( This is just my opinion don't flame me for it). I agree with you that there are some singers that DEFINITELY have amazing vocals, but that doesn't mean other singers don't have good vocals. They are just not as superior as mariah's or christina's.

Ayu is actually another example of why I think its an opinion. You say she's better than ai otsuka and koda kumi, but she damaged her voice from improper singing, while the other two are fine. Sure she has more years on them, but like her lives now can sometimes be atrocious while namie, koda kumi, and ai are fine. I just included namie to prove that years doesn't mean ur voice should die. But like aiko is another example anyways. She's been in the industry as long as ayu but her vocals are fine!

If you think a singer has good vocals, thats your opinion, and if you think another singer has bad vocals thats fine. lol : ) I'm just stating my opinion that its more about how people percieve it. Of course there are people with bad vocals but I think most singers have good vocals and thats why they're singing. We just don't appreciate some vocalists because we don't like the sound of their voice.
Well... Good vocals aren't a matter of opinion, but of course... You can like or don't like a singer without taking in consideration if he/she have good vocal skills or not...

Utada's Kremlin Dusk at Utada United for example... I know a lot of people that think that performace is amazing... But if you ever show that to any singer teacher or vocal coach, I'm 100% sure he/she will ask you if she really is a singer :B

If I say that singing good is having beautiful vocals, I'm lying, beautiful or ugly are a matter of opinion, you can like koda or ai vocals even if they aren't good taking their Vocal technique in consideration , Utada is my favorite music artist in the world and she is far from sounding perfect

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Japanese Visual Kei bands, I can't seem to get a good idea why many girls (out side of Asia of course) love them that much, they dress like women with extremely bad taste and their music is quite generic and stupid, well I guess the fact that most of their fans are younger than 15 explains a lot xD
I happen to love VK bands, a lot, and I am nowhere NEAR under the age of 15. And not all of them dress like women with bad taste, it's mostly just the make-up that they are doing these days.
As for bands/singers I think are overrated...
Britney Spears
Miley Cyrus (why is she popular again?)
The Jonas Brothers (just...no.)
Akon (he doesn't even SING, it's a computerized voice over his own voice...)
I've started to think Linkin Park is a bit overrated, too. I love their older stuff, but they pretty much went mainstream and I can't stand that.
I don't know much about Japanese music besides the bands I listen to myself, so I can't really comment on that aspect of it.
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I happen to love VK bands, a lot, and I am nowhere NEAR under the age of 15. And not all of them dress like women with bad taste, it's mostly just the make-up that they are doing these days.
I apologize I admit I went a bit too far with that xD I simply dislike them in general
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^Ah well, I respect that others don't like them and all, I just wish people would realize that not just teenage girls like them. I became a fan of VK when Dir en grey was still visual, so I'm used to the old-school aspect of VK. I also like the eroguro kei bands like MUCC, Merry and cali≠gari.
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Asia:
Any boybands
any girl bands also
Koda Kumi = can't believe someone said she sings as good as Mariah and most of her music bores me to death (I like Butterfly and Taboo a lot... and Cutie Honey too... but it's a cover and I knew the song long before)
Mika Nakashima = she looks like someone with cancer... her singing have no emotion and she is a terrible singing live (but you can finally feel the emotion when she feels pain trying to reach the high notes)
Aiko

Western:
Rihanna = Can't sing, can't dance, low charisma... why is she famous at all?
Kate Perry = Can't sing, can't dance, low charisma... why is she famous at all?²
Hilary Duff = Can't sing, can't dance, low charisma... why is she famous at all?³
Christina Aguilera = Yeah, she is an amazing singer... but her music is so.... meh...
Mariah Carrey = Don't know... maybe I just don't like her personality (and her music)


And I agree that Madonna, U2, Michael Jackson, The Beatles, etc aren't very overrated cause they influenced almost all pop acts we have today at some level... Even if I don't like The Beatles....
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I believe that music (....not the music just for sheer enjoyment <3 cuz that's nice.) is worth it if either the singer has an amazing voice, there are just captivating lyrics (especially if the singer writes the songs), or if the actual music is just so creative an out of the ordinary that you can't hepl but be amazed.

everyone else......I think those people are overrated. Hannah Montana for instance, she has an okay voice but...it's just okay (I personally like it but....her range sucks. It's like she sings the same 4 notes all the time), people are bending over backwards just to buy a lunchbox with her face on it at Target(r)....that's ridiculous
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Mr. Children, ARASHI, KAT-TUN, Coldplay, P!nk, Katy Perry, Kylie Minogue, Linkin Park, Madonna, Muse, Placebo, Sam Sparro, Wonder Girls (I like some of their songs but they sound HORRIBLE live), Ken Hirai, Miyavi
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^ Just curious, but why do you find Muse overrated? And Ken?
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Muse = I listened to their BHAR album and the only track I liked was "Supermassive Black Hole".. I don't know why but I don't find their music that special. Personal opinion kay?
Ken Hirai = I find his songs sound all the same.. they're all bland ballads (with exceptions like POP STAR, Kimi wa Su.te.ki,...) and I don't like his voice
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Obviously it's your opinion, that's why I asked you kay? Although judging based on one album is a bit unfair, just like it would be unfair for someone to judge Ayu based on one album I would think.
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I think The Jonas Brothers are way overrated. =/

Their fangirls go crazy for them...and none of their songs are even good. XD I would understand if they had a one-hit wonder, but I don't think they have...

Also, McFly don't do anything for me. XD
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