[Charts & Rankings] The IV Oricon Thread of NEXT LEVEL ~Keeps rollin'~

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by KarenPang

I know of cases where the opposite happened.

Well, there are always going to be cases in which that sort of thing happens [Namie fans -> Ayu, or Ayu fans -> every dang artist ever] but the point is that most of the time, fans [not fangirls, since guys like them too it seems] JE fans are going to end up DBSK fans, and I imagine that's exactly what's happening in Japan. Or BoA's old fans are liking them a lot.

I'm not a fan of either LOL I just think its rude and unfair to fans of DBSK to generalize them like that

How the jesus is this being rude? I'm just stating the blatantly obvious in my opinion. If you can't handle that, PM me about it and I probably won't respond because I don't really care about this. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

We should stop this conversation before it gets trashed. Again.

And good on Ayu for being so stable. I hope she sells at least 15-20k in the next month..

[KarenPang]

Originally Posted by ayumixfan

I'm not overcomplicating it ur just generalizing fangirls, which isn't nice to fangirls : ( Like karen said there are examples of it being the other way around and examples of girls who do not even like JE but like THSK. I have many friends who LOVE THSK but only like 1 or 2 songs from JE and don't even think they're good looking. I'm not a fan of either LOL I just think its rude and unfair to fans of DBSK to generalize them like that.

I forgot to add Good for ayu! she climbed out of the 50s =)

haha don't worry I'm not offended by it & even though I support Johnny's bands a GREAT deal , I should add that I do listen to some TOHOSHINKI from time to time

I don't like to get stuck in a rut musically

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Well, there are always going to be cases in which that sort of thing happens [Namie fans -> Ayu, or Ayu fans -> every dang artist ever] but the point is that most of the time, fans [not fangirls, since guys like them too it seems] JE fans are going to end up DBSK fans, and I imagine that's exactly what's happening in Japan. Or BoA's old fans are liking them a lot.

yeah it affects every artiste in general , it's not between confirmed spaces

[ayumixfan]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Well, there are always going to be cases in which that sort of thing happens [Namie fans -> Ayu, or Ayu fans -> every dang artist ever] but the point is that most of the time, fans [not fangirls, since guys like them too it seems] JE fans are going to end up DBSK fans, and I imagine that's exactly what's happening in Japan. Or BoA's old fans are liking them a lot.



How the jesus is this being rude? I'm just stating the blatantly obvious. If you can't handle that, PM me about it and I probably won't respond because I don't really care about this.

We should stop this conversation before it gets trashed. Again.

And good on Ayu for being so stable. I hope she sells at least 15-20k in the next month..

Yeah.. I understand we are getting off-topic XD but I just had to say it is rude because ur stereotyping people. Some people really don't like JE ( don't ask me why but they really hate them) and are THSK because they think the band is different from JE and now you're calling them a JE or former JE fan. Its like stereotyping all non asian jpop listeners are wapanese for listening to jpop or vietnamese/koreans are the same as chinese[I know this is usually a mistake from unknown knowledge but the THSK and JE incident is the same since we both don't really listen to their music so we can't really tell the difference in their styles and such] (which there have been complaints about on this forum regarding msitakened identity or labelling in a social group they don't want to be part of) Thats why its rude. You are labelling someone something they're not and putting them in a group of people whom they may not liked to be associated with. ( I don't really want to continue the JE/THSK discussion but I just thought I had to point this out because its more of respecting other people's feelings rather than discussing about JE and THSK.)

But I do agree with you on the sales, but I don't think she will sell that much in the next month TT She might be able to hit 400k anyways due to the lack of big hitters releasing or best albums =D As we can see she keeps SHOOTING back up so there's a good chancer her sales even at little numbers will keep being counted : )

haha karen I didn't think u'd be offended ^^ but other people might. I just know people who would be offended to be labelled that way and there might be people on this forum who would get offended v_v. So I think its better not to label people this way and avoid spiteful comments. At least at this points its just a discussion and not me and truehappiness insulting eachother.