Sunrise PV thoughts

[[taskin.ayu]]

Mediocre as usual. XD

[naxxo.licious™]

I honestly didn't want to see TA members' ugly faces at all tbh .

I think it's actually weird some people are complaining about them not getting enough close-up's or w/e, cause, if they actually did, i'm sure people would be complaining about it as well.

It's a fun video. It was like watching a special performance at the beach, but that's it.

I like her outfit, and she looks really cute, but i don't like the hair at all =/. I think i actually couldn't stop watching her hair the whole video lol.

I'm sure Sunset PV will be so much better. Probably just because she looks s t u n n i n g in it.

But well, just for the sake of bringing some drama to this thread, i wanna say that those "awful" PV's directed by Kazu have way more replay value than this one imo.

Interesting.

[love in music]

Originally Posted by naxxo.licious™

I honestly didn't want to see TA members' ugly faces at all tbh .

I think it's actually weird some people are complaining about them not getting enough close-up's or w/e, cause, if they actually did, i'm sure people would be complaining about it as well.

It's a fun video. It was like watching a special performance at the beach, but that's it.

I like her outfit, and she looks really cute, but i don't like the hair at all =/. I think i actually couldn't stop watching her hair the whole video lol.

I'm sure Sunset PV will be so much better. Probably just because she looks s t u n n i n g in it.

But well, just for the sake of bringing some drama to this thread, i wanna say that those "awful" PV's directed by Kazu have way more replay value than this one imo.

Interesting.

i agree with everything you said. very good post

[critter333294]

Originally Posted by naxxo.licious™

I honestly didn't want to see TA members' ugly faces at all tbh .

I think it's actually weird some people are complaining about them not getting enough close-up's or w/e, cause, if they actually did, i'm sure people would be complaining about it as well.


But well, just for the sake of bringing some drama to this thread, i wanna say that those "awful" PV's directed by Kazu have way more replay value than this one imo.

Interesting.

Dunno....for me, I was just expecting the director to find a way to get the members really involved and just have this really energetic, fun summer video (Not to say that this one wasn't, it definitely was). I thought it would be different. But there's probably only so much you can do with 300 extras in a music video. And wasn't someone supposed to have done choreography? Where exactly was that because I seem to have missed it.

But I agree about the Kazu pvs! I never thought they were that horrible to begin with.

[octocoffee]

The PV was really well done, thanks to Wataru. The lighting was a bit glaring, but it fit the summer feel and everyone looked really great, so that didn't matter much. I loved the white stage and how the towels sort of popped with the yellow and blue.

I'm not sure what people expect out of promotional videos in general. I know that Ayu has had fantastic PVs full of substance and artistry, but most of her PVs aren't that way. Actually, most PVs in general aren't that way. It's all about eyecandy for the fans, and Sunrise happens to have tons of it.

As for the thing about the TeamAyu members, I definitely agree with those who say it's all about the experience, not about how many times you appear in the film. Last night I went to a concert that will soon be put on DVD, and I do plan on buying it, just so I can brag that I was there, even if there's absolutely no footage of me. I bet the same will apply to the TA members who were in the Sunrise video.

[Aisha_Angel]

This is by far, ONE of the WORST Ayumi PVs ever.

The ONLY Pro to this video is the fact that Ayu fans were selected to be at the filming, but you know what even that ends up being a con.

Here are the CONS for me:
The song is just WHACK as hell.

There was no choreography. All Ayu did was stand, spin around and repeat. All the BG-dancers did was wave their towels in the air like a bunch of retards. If that's the BEST that Zin or whoever the hell ****ed up the choreography for this song could come up with, Ayumi would have done better to pick a RANDOM alcoholic off the street to make up something better.

The lighting effect is so BAD, it makes Ayu look damn near 40.

Her hair...Oh God, it looks like a plant died on top of head. It probably didn't look as bad during the shoot, but with the wind (which I will get to in a minute) and that God-awful white light effect---it just looked a humid, muggy mess.

Her outfit...>.< Why the HELL would you wear white with a video that already whitens the hell out of you with the effects? Why couldn't she wear something more colorful...such as the colors of the a-nation towel? Or something that actually compliments her natural skin tone? And the boots...they didn't even match. The entire outfit looked like a blind/dumb idiot pieced it all together at literally the LAST minute.

The wind...I don't even know if the wind was actually blowing or if it was just one of those Mariah Carey-diva props where a gigantic fan just operated as yet another unnecessary prop for this video. If it really was windy that day, I guess I can't complain too much about it...But if it wasn't windy the fans were just unnecessary. They blew her hair to pieces and apparently a draft caught up her shorts and revealed that Ayu happened to be commando or wearing a thong that day. And since Ayu no longer has an ass anymore (Ayu's booty, RIP since the end of AT08), it just didn't do anything for her.

*sigh* Now comes the fans...I feel really bad for these fans because you couldn't see ANY OF THEM! I would have killed to see at least THREE of them get a frame in this garbage. Just to see them going crazy for Ayu would have enhanced the "impromptu live" feeling the director appeared to be aiming at. Instead we get Ayu doing the same old tired ass twirl and Shuya + two other dancers that I DON'T CARE ABOUT AT ALL swinging towels like they were in some Japanese remake of Petey Pablo's "North Carolina" music video.

This video is just...it is just AWFUL. It's so bad I REFUSE to recognize this as an Ayumi Hamasaki PV. The sound, the quality, the weak choreography, the HORRIBLE outfit Ayu wore, the dead flowers in her hair---all combine into a HOT MESS for me.

After this MESS, Ayu needs to fire every single person involved with this single along with those involved in the NEXT LEVEL era. In fact, if she really wanted to make a statement. she'd fire/refuse to work with anyone involved with anything past the Secret era because for me, ever since that album came out all of her music and music videos have gone from bad to worse. If she doesn't get a stronghold on her career and starts seeking out new producers, her title as the Queen of J-pop will be taken from her by the end of the year. She is being left behind by Namie and dare I say it...Koda Kumi. Even TOHOSHINKI is selling more single-units than she is, and their last single was equivalent to crap to me. She needs to take a break from music altogether and create a better team of staff complete with new choreographers, new composers, new arrangers, and new PV-directors.

[SunshineSlayer]

Don't know if this was mentioned yet, but I just noticed that the closeups of her face are shot differently than the rest of her video - there is a filter and also more whiteness - its only like that for the closeups though.

Originally Posted by tasking

And the structure? Awesome. It was nice of them to include TA members, when they could've easy picked random people off the streets or something.

Well, there are several good reasons to let your fans on your videos.

1. No need to pay extras.
2. It ensures that they will be into it.
3. Something nice for the fans.(though it would be nicer if they got paid for their time just like any other extra would.) I think a lot of people don't realize that being an extra is actually work.(I used to do extra work in Hollywood) You get treated like cattle and to get 5 minutes of film usually takes at least 8 hours.

[zyoeru]

I definitely saw choreography and TA members. But from people maybe I was hallucinating...

[emi♡]

Yeah...I don't get the people wanting close-ups of the actual fans themselves...

but I think the entire platforms that had the fans on them deserved some more camera time.


uh I don't think it was her worst PV ever. I'd rather see her "singing" than her having a dumb*** PV that's trying too hard to be meaningful with Ayu overacting all over the place and embarassing herself.

At least it was a little fun, and considering how her recent PVs have been more focused on just her singing anyway with not much happening...I don't think it was all THAT bad.

I wouldn't have minded another BLUE BIRD though. She looked so good in that PV.

[jiarongisme]

I really like it! It's all fun and summery.

[JinHamasaki]

PV:
The pv is a lot of fun and the interactions between the dancers and Ayu was great. Ayu was really natural! I don't see why everyone is complaining about the colors, did you all forget how the CM looked? The CM is not overexposed, so we should wait for another rip of the PV. Her outfits are awesome, and the TA interaction was fun and lively. The ending was a great wrap!

Song:
First time hearing the song (I know!! I resisted!). The song is like a mixture of independent and flower garden. It really seems like the sequel to "H". It's something I want to pull down the sunroof and drive 95 mph by the beach!

And to everyone fussing over the "lack" of TA. Well, it's hard to direct 300 inexperienced random people. I don't give a hoot of I see "Person A" up close, well because that person is not Ayu. It's just like being an extra to a movie, you're just there int he background!

[freedreamer]

Originally Posted by naxxo.licious™

I honestly didn't want to see TA members' ugly faces at all tbh .

I think it's actually weird some people are complaining about them not getting enough close-up's or w/e, cause, if they actually did, i'm sure people would be complaining about it as well.

It's a fun video. It was like watching a special performance at the beach, but that's it.

I like her outfit, and she looks really cute, but i don't like the hair at all =/. I think i actually couldn't stop watching her hair the whole video lol.

I'm sure Sunset PV will be so much better. Probably just because she looks s t u n n i n g in it.

Interesting.

I agree...
except for the replay value wan because for me, I dont really watch PVs EVERYDAY..it's the song that matters...the PV just gives you an additional picture to your mind..

and for Sunrise's case, it didn;t! BECAUSE...this was What I already expected. Ok seriously, upon knowing there's gonna be a guy chorus, it's gonna be like independent and HUMMING...You can just treat it as a concert...so people dont like watching concerts? Lol..that's funny. It's like saying "I'm not going to watch Secret in AT07 because she was just standing there..and the only best part was the curtains falling down...and WHY DIDN'T THEY FOCUS ON THE FANS CRYING!?"

i mean...what kind of MEANINGFUL video do you expect? Ayu's needs a break from all that seriously, I just want to see her smile like that, so naturally and having lotsa fun. I honestly got goosebumps in the last chorus when the key changed and she was just full of energy...

Born To Be... could have been like that honestly, Ayu could have been in a large proper stadium and just singing..i felt that would be more inspiring..

About the white wash, yes there is a white filter somewhat. but you cant ignore those jarring spotlights shooting from all over the stage...Ayu doesnt need it for sure, but the PV does. It's all to make it more bright and summery.

The stage was so amazing..Ayu had the most open spot for the flying camera to shoot her. Her hair was very reminiscent of...her LOVEppears/Duty days hahha.

I actually enjoyed it a lot. Yes, certainly there could have been few more extra scenes...but i bet they didn't want to waste that stage...
The song is so happy and lively...it just feels so gd.

[minna]

I think the PV is really fun and summerish.
However, I think that we should have seen a little bit more the fans (the platforms where they were, not close-ups of them).

And, the stage/platform was really cool!

Yes, I really like the PV ^^

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by JinHamasaki

And to everyone fussing over the "lack" of TA. Well, it's hard to direct 300 inexperienced random people. I don't give a hoot of I see "Person A" up close, well because that person is not Ayu. It's just like being an extra to a movie, you're just there int he background!

I agree that I don't really care if I see TA members faces, but the difference is that in a movie or music video or whatever, the extras are paid. Anytime an artist brings in their fanclub for a video they are not paid and then on top of that, not really featured in this video at all - to me then it seems more like just a cheap way to save some money. Judging by the finished product, there was no reason why the background had to specifically be TA members.

[truehappiness]

I dunno, perhaps she just felt it was a song where they wanted to have super!fans be used like Humming 7/4? I recall Beautiful Fighters had a very similar treatment to this, but hired just about anyone who applied [or did they have to be actors?] after they put out a casting call for people.. but I don't remember, haha.

But I think it's rather funny how people who didn't like the song to begin with seem to dislike it ~even more~ after watching the PV. Did they think it was going to change their minds..?

[SunshineSlayer]

^If there was a casting call, then they got paid. Most extras are gotten through agencies just like actors are (there are agencies here and in Japan that are just for extras) and they are paid an hourly rate. By having fanclub members you circumvent having to pay that money. Smart from a company standpoint.

As I said though, I think it would be impractical to focus on specific members of the audience, but I would say at least to be nice since you aren't paying them, maybe focus at least a little more on the audience in general. Especially since there wasn't much going on in the pv anyways. I think a lot of fanclub members (not just hers but other artists too) sign up for these kind of things not even realizing that they are actually doing a job for free that they probably should be getting paid for. ^_^

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I dunno, perhaps she just felt it was a song where they wanted to have super!fans be used like Humming 7/4? I recall Beautiful Fighters had a very similar treatment to this, but hired just about anyone who applied [or did they have to be actors?] after they put out a casting call for people.. but I don't remember, haha.

But I think it's rather funny how people who didn't like the song to begin with seem to dislike it ~even more~ after watching the PV. Did they think it was going to change their minds..?

I've had PVs enhance my feelings for a song to where I ~kinda~ like it.

Like DAYS. I hate that song. But the PV is so nice, and it goes so well with it, I mean, it's hard to hate it in conjunction with the PV lol

I sort of feel that way about this song too.

[truehappiness]

I feel as though the fans might've been reimbursed with goods, haha. Free towels and fans, guize! Haha.

[ownsarai]

I don't think that the TA members care about 'being paid' or 'having close-ups' in the PV. They are just happy to have seen Ayu in a very up-close and personal setting. I would have been extremely honored to be part of Ayu's PV, even for one second. I really think the video is awesome. She looks really cute and genuinely happy~

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

I like it ^^ But I'm not really excited about it, don't get me wrong though, I'm soo happy with it lol

something like Humming 7/4 but MUCH better, and the summer subject really fits. She's too cute! The dancers scared me a bit but at the end it was ok.

lol this single is made for a-nation.