[Tohoshinki] №☆These 5 boys are standing by you in their 8th thread♂℃

[LizBrazil]

I guess we have to wait until we find it on jpopsuki

[miroro]

well, we'll just have to wait

[AyUmIXx]

hixxx so where we can watch TSC anyway?
i found the info to watch TSC from a blog using keyhole..
but it doesnt show anything T___T
guess that should just wait for the rip version..in two days~

[LizBrazil]

Anyway, I found a fancam of Survivor on a-nation and they changed the choreography:


Here is the mc:

[Cloudsoldier]

right now, its showing EXILE HOUSe, a variety show by EXILE.

[miroro]

^thanks for the vid!
the quality is so good!! but they look tired
at least they're dancing and singing as good as always!!

[AyUmIXx]

an interesting article from GQ Magazine..
love it.. but got some bad news~~

[TRANS] 090829 GQ September Issue translation

TVXQ sings "I got you~ooo, Under my skin," and dances. When the buttons on the shirts that cling onto their bodies cannot handle their powerful moves and burst, U-Know Yunho's well-developed and chiseled pectoral muscles are shown. Fans from all over Korea, who may have had ill feelings towards the long stretch of Japanese activities, act as though the group had never left and stare at their TV and even go up to the TV screen and stroke it. I'm talking about the comeback stage of <Spell-MIROTIC> that happened after the album's release last December. Fans found something a little odd about TVXQ during this stage. Although the five members' faces were the same, it was as though their faces had been stuck on someone else's body. This was because of their 'muscles'.

TVXQ's thin and muscular bodies are completely different from SM Entertainment's preceding idol groups. The direction that the members of TVXQ are headed is being influenced by the Japanese activities they have been carefully and diligently doing. In Japan these days, their is a 'Hosomacho' or 'thin muscle' trend blazing through the nation. The biggest reason for this trend is because the majority of young Japanese women prefers the thin muscled hosomacho look over the heavily muscled gorimacho (gorilla macho) look.

What am I talking about? There are probably going to be some people who tell me that this trend has been around for a while with the majority of singers in Johnny's Entertainment and with the majority of males in Tokyo having a thin muscle body structure. But what they are talking more about skinny guys who look as though they have muscles because they are skinny, not the 'thin muscle' look. But to think that TVXQ is just one of the many hosomacho groups is a big mistake. This is because the popularity of Tohoshinki, as they call themselves in Japan, is so great and out of this world that it cannot be fully comprehended or understood in Korea.

If we divide the dominating Japanese male idol groups into three categories, the first would be 'role Lolita', groups comprised of pretty boys, the second would be 'Yankees', groups comprised of members who have a bad boy vibe to them, and the third would be the TVXQ style. The TVXQ style's popularity can be properly felt in Japan's host clubs. Koreans may connect the words host or hostess with adult clubs and see these words with a negative outlook, but to many young, handsome and popular college students in Japan, it is the most preferred part-time job.

Different from Korea's hosts, Japan's hosts serve only alcohol and there is a different term for those who provide sexual intercourse and they are called 'Urisen'. In these host clubs that can easily be found in Shinjuku's Gabukicho area, the pictures of the hosts in the clubs tell women what kind of style each host is. Before, most of the people in the pictures copied the style of Johnny's Entertainment's idol groups. But now, at least one or two hosts in every club very conspicuously copies the style of one of the members of TVXQ.

In this area, there was once a time where the most manly people were nabe (a girl dressed up as a guy or a trans gender female). with their thin, pretty bodies. But now many Japanese women are asking for the hosomacho style, men who are not only pretty, but are also manly, and who are not only skinny, but has muscles. The TVXQ wind is blowing through the clubs of Gabukicho.


Since many Korean idol groups are popular not only in Korea but all of Asia, many Koreans may think that TVXQ's popularity is similar to that of other celebrities. Shall we delve deeper to see just how popular TVXQ is in Japan? TVXQ's most recent Japanese single sold almost 200K copies in one week. This sets TVXQ with the second highest first week sales in their agency, Japan's biggest company Avex.

The only group above TVXQ is the 14-member group Exile, the group that received the highest award from the Japanese Record Association and the group that even creates big changes in society with their raging popularity. This means that TVXQ's first album sales beats that of the female leaders of Japanese pop, 'Amuro Namie'. 'Hamasaki Ayumi' and 'Koda Kumi'. This is a feat that not even popular star 'BoA' has achieved. These are the kind of top singers we can compare TVXQ to now.

But I am not basing their popularity on album sales only. TVXQ has set a huge record of being on Japan's representative music chart 'Oricon Chart' as 1st on weekly single sales six times already. Since the year 2000, the number of stars who have attempted to enter the Japanese market is enormous, with stars such as S.E.S, Sugar, Park Junghyun, Rain, Lee Soo Young, Se7en, SS501, Ryu Siwon, Park Yongha, Lee Byunghun, Yoonha, K, Sunmin, Big Bang and Super Junior.

But the only singers who have reached first on Oricon's weekly single charts are BoA (once) and TVXQ (six times). TVXQ also succeeded in being invited to hold two concerts in July at the Tokyo Dome which is considered the Dream Stage, even to Japanese singers. This has never been completed by any other Korean singer before.

But the Bible sends a message, "Prophets do not get respect from their homelands." For some odd reason, TVXQ's outstanding achievements do not seem to be reported or praised in Korea. Also, it is sad to see that TVXQ's success of almost selling 200K copies of their single was buried under the dispute between SM Entertainment and three members of TVXQ (Micky Yoochun, Xiah Junsu, YoungWoong Jaejoong) and the disbandment rumors that followed it.

They are not something something 'sama' (like Yonsama) who were washed ashore by the Hallyu Wave. No, they even asked all Japanese media agencies not to associate the word 'Hallyu' with them (even asking for news articles to be pulled down if the word was used in relation to them), to show that they wished to succeed with their own powers and were able to become widely known in Japan. TVXQ had to erase their nationality in order to gain the acceptance from the Japanese population.

The rumors of disbandment at the height of their popularity has become a hot topic of conversation in the Japanese music industry. Japanese media has been created a daily special to update everyone about what's happening in Korea with regards to TVXQ, and this has caused Avex's CEO to come forward and give an explanatory statement to clam the Japanese fans. He announced that TVXQ's Japanese activitees would continue regardless of what was happening in Korea and he decided to announce this himself. This has never happened before.

It seems as though the way Korean agencies set the income division when writing up the contract has surprised the people of Japan who are used to the Japanese agencies' way of working that gives monthly salaries that may change. Since the first official event TVXQ held after the disbandment rumors came out was in Japan and not Korea, the source of such rumors, with the Fireworks Festival Concert, the Japanese media was more vigilant when it came to reporting the issue than the Korean media.

Therefore, whether they wanted this or not, this case has opened TVXQ up to a wider fan base including the younger generation. YoungWoong Jaejoong, who is the most popular amongst the members in Japan, was even seen in a paparazzi scandal magazine that only extremely famous Japanese celebrities appear in.

Although the situation in Korea is a complete mess, TVXQ might be able to take one step further in their Japanese activities through this happening. But they must once more grab hold of their Korean fans. There are already rumors that the 'light fanbase' is ready to embrace the new 6 member male idol group SM Entertainment is preparing.

As faithful as Korean fans are, they are also able to turn their backs on a singer very quickly. If even the fans who used to embrace them turn their backs on TVXQ, the group will become the prophets who are not respected in their homelands.


Source: [GQ Magazine+DNBN]
Translation credits: jeeelim5@tohosomnia.net
Shared by: tohosomnia.net + TVXQindo
Do not remove/add on any credits

[miroro]

i lol so hard at the "hosomacho" "gorimacho"
but the lasst par is SO sad.

thanks for posting it!!

[waterballoon]

It seems like they might leave SM... and join avex permanently? That's good..

AND OMG THE WEBCAM OF SURVIVOR... overflowing with Junsu (thanks Elizabeth haha)... and his ass at the end was

[labello]

Originally Posted by MirrocleHeaven*

i lol so hard at the "hosomacho" "gorimacho"
but the last part is SO sad.

thanks for posting it!!

This!
Exactly what I think too~

[AyUmIXx]

wahaha i lol-ed as well when i read how they presented the muscular and skinny muscles with those words..wahahahaha lol
those "hosomacho" "gorimacho"
wahaahahaha lol
seriuosly very funny!!!

[LizBrazil]

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx

an interesting article from GQ Magazine..
love it.. but got some bad news~~

I think the boys must feel really sad about this. The fact that they get more support from Japanese media and fans than they get in their homeland

Originally Posted by waterballoon

It seems like they might leave SM... and join avex permanently? That's good..

AND OMG THE WEBCAM OF SURVIVOR... overflowing with Junsu (thanks Elizabeth haha)... and his ass at the end was

You're welcome

[AyUmIXx]

YUIAyuNamieUtada, yeah, that's what i'm afraid of..
and after reading the article, somehow i think that SM is not afraid of losing the boys.. because they think that if they create a new idol group, TVXQ will be forgotten T___T
i don't want to think like that but.. gosh.. see how H.O.T and Shinhwa end up~
but i really do hope that TVXQ fans from Korea or all over the world won't leave the boys..

but somehow, i'm still gratefull that Japanese fans and the medias have really paid attentions to them...

[waterballoon]

I think it's... like Ayu's alterna PV? Pop stars are just.. getting created every day, and every singer will be replaced if sales are not good, or if there are scandals. It's a very sad fact, but it still remains there.

SM has so many bands... SNSD, Wondergirls, Super Junior, BIG BANG... seriously they have their own merits, but who knows if they're facing the same money issues like these boys here?

I think it's sad if Korea might not support them much or whatever from now on, but I think it's a good thing to move on, to somewhere else where things are more fair, and that you won't get restricted.

Moreover, if a Korean fan were a true Tohoshinki fan, he/she would follow them wherever they go... or at least that's what I believe in.

[AyUmIXx]

^

oh just to correct u, my friend...
SM doesn't have many artists..they only have TVXQ, BOA, SNSD, Super Junior, SHINee, The Grace, Zhang Li Yin, the new group f(x)...and 1-3 actresses..the rest are still trainees..
those are the main artists right now..
there are still a few if compare to what avex trax has... what a big gap

and i think SM really needs to re-think of losing the boys, since the boys are no longer to be seen as typical boybands in which Korean fans are tended to look at them...
really, Korean boybands/girlbands are tended to be seen as idol groups.. (just like the GQ article said)
but in Japan, The boys are really different.. they're musically acknowledged~
yeap! if Korean fans are true fans, i hope they won't just move on to another boybands if TVXQ ever leave SM/Korea~
but i highly doubt that TVXQ will really leave Korea, they love their Korean fans so so so so so so much~

i really wish the boys to move on to another company too.. but the thing is... the two members Yunho and Changmin are not following the lawsuit thing..
that's what it's hard right now..it's not all 5 of them who have filed the lawsuit~

[waterballoon]

Wow the 2 members I dislike the most didn't file the lawsuit. Well, was there any news about why they didn't do so? They can't be feeling contented with the peanuts $$$ they get from SM right.

Anyway, thanks for the correction. It seems like SM just sees Tohoshinki as a "boyband" and doesn't care if they die cos they have trainees with them/can just make another one.

I guess they choose to deny what they really can do, and what Japan sees them as, haha.

[miroro]

It's a pitty that the members of SM are so stupid ._. DBSK is just getting and getting more popular, can't they see it?
they should make them some good contracts, hollycow!!! at the end, they'll have more profits.. but now, they're gonna lose the most influent korean boyband, and that's SO silly

[LizBrazil]

Originally Posted by waterballoon

Wow the 2 members I dislike the most didn't file the lawsuit. Well, was there any news about why they didn't do so? They can't be feeling contented with the peanuts $$$ they get from SM right.

Anyway, thanks for the correction. It seems like SM just sees Tohoshinki as a "boyband" and doesn't care if they die cos they have trainees with them/can just make another one.

I guess they choose to deny what they really can do, and what Japan sees them as, haha.

All the boys are like brothers and I'm sure they talked a lot about this issue before Junsu, Yoochun and Jaejoong started the lawsuit. To the outside world it seems like the members don't agree on this matter and that they are falling apart. But it could also be a strategie that 3 members filled a lawsuit and that the other 2 just seem neutral. If they all filled the lawsuit, it would be easy for SM to get rid of them and start a new boyband. But now there are 2 members that are 'loyal' to SM, so SM might still turn around and agree on the matter As for what happened with Shinwa, I don't think Yunho and Changmin would continue to go on with SM when they make the 3 others leave. They have a really strong band that can't be distroyed

[Maemi]

Wait. Wait. Wait. I missed... What the hell is going on? @___@;

[miroro]

^ some members of tohoshiki started a lawsuit with SM 'couse their contracts are just so horrible u.u and they don't want them!

ahh!! first 3 parts of the concerts are on youtube now!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR7NkY6yh3s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoXl7vgoZQQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hArjrv9yeI

i'm gonna see it!
but first, i have to make some popcorns ~ lol