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Old 22nd October 2009, 09:34 PM
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Not cranky, just amazed at how someone who used to have the best titles on the industry just has to fail this miserably. Ayu lacking of originality is nothing new, the same pattern repeats again and again (summer single / winter single). That is good if she keeps the same level of quality on her releases, but sorry, NEXT LEVEL was the last decent Ayu release, and this stinks like another Sunrise/Sunset, which in my opinion, should be erased of her discography.
lol @ best titles in the industry, you're joking right?
you haven't even heard snippets of any of the songs, and they're what matter, not the titles. and if you think NL is the last decent release then that's great, because it's less than a year ago, so you should have no shame or anything saying something like that.

sorry but it just seems weird to say that "this stinks like another sunrise/sunset" seriously, wait until you actually hear the songs to say something like that.

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Old 22nd October 2009, 10:08 PM
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lol @ best titles in the industry, you're joking right?
you haven't even heard snippets of any of the songs, and they're what matter, not the titles. and if you think NL is the last decent release then that's great, because it's less than a year ago, so you should have no shame or anything saying something like that.

sorry but it just seems weird to say that "this stinks like another sunrise/sunset" seriously, wait until you actually hear the songs to say something like that.
This is pretty much what I wanted to write.

Anyways, they're just song names...doesn't bother me. I just hope I'll like the songs, pvs, and the covers. For some reason I have high hopes for this release. I always loved ayu's ballads, and I also enjoy her winter ballad pvs. (even the recent ones like days, together when..., momentum, etc) I wouldn't mind if ishii directs again coz I enjoy his ballad pvs. As for the covers, I don't think it can get any worse than the s/s covers. d/g covers were not that bad...so even if shimomura photographs again, it should be ok...I hope.
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Old 23rd October 2009, 04:36 PM
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lol @ best titles in the industry, you're joking right?
you haven't even heard snippets of any of the songs, and they're what matter, not the titles. and if you think NL is the last decent release then that's great, because it's less than a year ago, so you should have no shame or anything saying something like that.

sorry but it just seems weird to say that "this stinks like another sunrise/sunset" seriously, wait until you actually hear the songs to say something like that.
I have all the shame of the world baby.

We are discussing the titles here, not the songs, and you can already imagine how the songs will be (3 ballads, wintery stuff etc.). It's Ayu we are talking of, obviously she may do something different and original this time and I will eat my words, but as of now, that's what I think. It's my opinion, as valid as any other, so if your fandom blinds you to say anything wrong about Ayu, go eat a cake, because I really don't give a damn. If you respect my opinion, I respect yours, which is as valid, but please, let's be neutral.

I'm judging Ayu right now taking from the most recent example of her artistry (and I do this with all artistes): Sunrise / Sunset, which in my opinion, is a horrid single. In the same way, I'm expecting Namie's new album to be awesome, since her last single was, imo.

But obviously that doesn't means that You were... / BALLAD can't happen to be the best thing ever and Namie's new album can be a total failure. Anything may happen.

And yes, I think that Ayu as a whole, has some of the best titles for both songs and albums that I've seen, and titles are really important at least for me, since they usually reflect the spirit of a song and are a key component in marketing. If you follow that formula of "oh, titles don't matter at all", then you should complain about people when they say "Oh, the contrast between Sunrise and Sunset sounds so good, it's an amazing title" right? But nooooo, because that's praising Ayu and obviously she can do no wrong.
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Old 23rd October 2009, 04:53 PM
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I have all the shame of the world baby.

We are discussing the titles here, not the songs, and you can already imagine how the songs will be (3 ballads, wintery stuff etc.). It's Ayu we are talking of, obviously she may do something different and original this time and I will eat my words, but as of now, that's what I think. It's my opinion, as valid as any other, so if your fandom blinds you to say anything wrong about Ayu, go eat a cake, because I really don't give a damn. If you respect my opinion, I respect yours, which is as valid, but please, let's be neutral.

I'm judging Ayu right now taking from the most recent example of her artistry (and I do this with all artistes): Sunrise / Sunset, which in my opinion, is a horrid single. In the same way, I'm expecting Namie's new album to be awesome, since her last single was, imo.

But obviously that doesn't means that You were... / BALLAD can't happen to be the best thing ever and Namie's new album can be a total failure. Anything may happen.

And yes, I think that Ayu as a whole, has some of the best titles for both songs and albums that I've seen, and titles are really important at least for me, since they usually reflect the spirit of a song and are a key component in marketing. If you follow that formula of "oh, titles don't matter at all", then you should complain about people when they say "Oh, the contrast between Sunrise and Sunset sounds so good, it's an amazing title" right? But nooooo, because that's praising Ayu and obviously she can do no wrong.
lollllll damn. not everyone who disagrees with your overly negative opinion is a blind stan. i can and have said plenty bad about her but i just thought it was ridiculous you thinking that basically this whole single is a failure when you haven't even heard the songs.

CHILL PILL OMG.
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Old 23rd October 2009, 05:40 PM
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And yes, I think that Ayu as a whole, has some of the best titles for both songs and albums that I've seen, and titles are really important at least for me, since they usually reflect the spirit of a song and are a key component in marketing. If you follow that formula of "oh, titles don't matter at all", then you should complain about people when they say "Oh, the contrast between Sunrise and Sunset sounds so good, it's an amazing title" right? But nooooo, because that's praising Ayu and obviously she can do no wrong.
Let's see:

・WILD
・Dr.
・MY LOVE
・COPY THAT!
FAST CAR
・BAD HABIT
LOVE GAME
Steal my night
・Shut Up
・The Meaning Of Us
・Defend Love

If I were ever to judge that album based on it's track titles I would've never tried to listen to it. Sure a song titled BALLAD doesn't sound very creative, but an album with 3 songs that feature the word LOVE in their titles, a song that's titled Steal my night and a song about a FAST CAR don't sound very appealing to me xD So I am sorry, but I am kinda failing to see your poing? Sure the names might not be very creative, even though I only have a prob with BALLAD xD the names don't have to reflect the actual quality of the song.

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Old 23rd October 2009, 05:43 PM
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Hector , not to point a finger at you or something but to me it doesn't make sense to judge a song based on its title alone & somemore , no 1 has heard how good/bad You were ... / BALLAD is in the 1st place

it's almost in the case of judging a book without its cover
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Old 23rd October 2009, 07:07 PM
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Let's see:

・WILD
・Dr.
・MY LOVE
・COPY THAT!
FAST CAR
・BAD HABIT
LOVE GAME
Steal my night
・Shut Up
・The Meaning Of Us
・Defend Love

If I were ever to judge that album based on it's track titles I would've never tried to listen to it. Sure a song titled BALLAD doesn't sound very creative, but an album with 3 songs that feature the word LOVE in their titles, a song that's titled Steal my night and a song about a FAST CAR don't sound very appealing to me xD So I am sorry, but I am kinda failing to see your poing? Sure the names might not be very creative, even though I only have a prob with BALLAD xD the names don't have to reflect the actual quality of the song.
Good Lord, is that the confirmed tracklist? *checks* ..... Oh wow.

Outside of the songs that were already previewed, those titles don't make the songs sound appealing at all haha.

But I gotta admit, neither does BALLAD. I guess we'll have to see how the songs come out because at the end of the day, that's all that matters.

(Also) After a song called "Bold & Delicious" and "Load of the SHUGYO," Ayu can name her songs whatever the hell she wants in my opinion.
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