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Old 17th November 2009, 05:54 PM
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the idk what this song/pv means thread

This is weird but a few weeks ago I broke my sony M2, so I have not been able to listen to too much Jpop lately. And to make it even worse I am still confused about the pv for walking proud . So lately I have really been appreciating Ayu's music much more than usual and I was thinking that it would be cool if there was a specific post where we could all discuss analysis of songs, so if you do not understand any particular lines, mvs, or an entire song in general why don't we all help each other out and lets get this show rolling. As I already posted I have tried time and time again to decipher the meaning behind the pv for walking proud and I remember that I posted before, I think the boy, the older man, and the younger man have to do with past (innonence), present (introspection and acceptance), and future (dignity), however this is the farthest I have ever gotten. So anyone who has ideas and questions is gladly welcomed!
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Heehee I was confuzzled by that pv too XD But I do agree with you about the innocence, introspection and acceptance, and dignity...That's about as far as I've come too XD

But there's another pv that I don't get...I don't really understand how the ANGEL'S SONG pv actually relates to the song XD It was a really silly music video lol
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Old 19th November 2009, 09:34 PM
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the first thing i thought of when i saw this thread title was walking proud too. i also don't understand Moments, and i really want to because i know it probably has a really cool meaning. i'd say GREEN too but i think most people are completely stumped on that one.
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Old 19th November 2009, 10:21 PM
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Whoa my reply got duplicated O.o

Sorry about that XD
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Old 19th November 2009, 10:34 PM
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Whoa my reply got duplicated O.o

Sorry about that XD
which is why there's an edit and a delete button.

only thing I don't get. sparkle. really just don't get it.
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Old 19th November 2009, 11:05 PM
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I always thought Sparkle was because she's talking about being all forward and confident .. and that's what she's doing in the PV ~ I think the PV just compliments the lyrics really xD
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Old 19th November 2009, 11:12 PM
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ANGEL SONG'S is pretty lolwut more than Sparkle.
It should be renamed as WEREWOLF SONG'S D:
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Old 20th November 2009, 11:43 AM
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IMO ANGEL'S SONG's lyric is talking about something like Guardian Angel so I guess Ayu's transformation into the werewolf and protecting the people there is guardian angel-like. I always though it like that

While walking proud talks about lies and surrounded by lies...that maybe represent by imitation beings, robots, a lie to life itself and the fake scenery. That life full of lies made Ayu escaped and becomes the black-haired Ayu. In the end Ayu found that she herself have also made lies (her robot), the potrait of 'I'll be my ideal self someday'.

Moments from lyric-wise, I see Ayu potraying the person who is described in the lyrics, the one whose heart is broken and such, dying for protection and warmth. So she was like teary-eyed and gloomy. I don't really know the whole kids and the wooden doll thing. The stained Ayu in feathers and black paint? maybe describing the 'offering my wings to your wounded back'. idk

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Old 20th November 2009, 11:59 AM
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^ I read that the director said the black paint is blood, but they didn't want it to have an adult rating.
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I really don't get the 'point' in Talkin' 2 Myself.

And is Free & Easy, a kind of execution?
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Old 20th November 2009, 10:03 PM
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^ yes, it is, Jeanne d'Arc was executed and it pretty much is the story of hers, she was burned(alive I think...)
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this line in Together When... i always get stumped by:
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Maybe I shall be born again to myself some day
And start a journey to seek for you
whut's that supposed to mean?
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^I always interpreted it as she'll be renewing herself so she will be happy with how she is or something...Idk, I'm just guessing XDD
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I really don't get the 'point' in Talkin' 2 Myself.

And is Free & Easy, a kind of execution?
Yes, it's like the story of Joan of Arc.
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Old 21st November 2009, 12:51 AM
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this line in Together When... i always get stumped by:

whut's that supposed to mean?
i found a better translation

"Someday I'll be reborn as myself again
And I'll probably go on a journey to find you"

it's pretty clear what it means from that one
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Old 21st November 2009, 01:11 AM
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I'm confused by the Days PV. Like I get she fantasizes about being with the guy but I can't really figure out which one is the fantasy and which part is reality.
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Old 21st November 2009, 01:29 AM
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^Yeah, that definitely makes more sense to me too XD

Sometimes a little mistranslation leaves people confuzzled lol
But it's really hard to translate things from Japanese so I don't complain
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Old 21st November 2009, 01:34 AM
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Boys and Girls... wth?
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i found a better translation

"Someday I'll be reborn as myself again
And I'll probably go on a journey to find you"

it's pretty clear what it means from that one
thank you!
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Boys and Girls... wth?
the lyrics or pv?
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Old 24th November 2009, 06:24 AM
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Thanks for the walking proud interpertation, that makes sense. I am still not convienced that Ayu is speaking about Joan of Arc in her pv, and the ending of the pv is so ambigious that I think it is even more difficult to say she is refering to Joan of Arc, even though the title is Free & Easy. I have always liked the Moments mv because the dark lyrics, in the beginning of the song match the mv flawlessly:

Your heart began to be scorched,
and there was a smell of it
It was the end of your dream,
and the start of everything

What you adored looked beautiful to you
It became even brighter because you couldn't reach it

The broken pieces of your dream
Pierce my heart
Leaving the pain
That I should never forget
Your heart began to be scorched,
and there was a smell of it
It was the end of your dream,
and the start of everything

If my life is transient like a flower
I'll be in full bloom by your side
And after watching your smile
I'll fall alone, quietly

How was the scenery you saw
When you were pushed into an abyss of despair

Your naked heart is wandering
Having nowhere to go
And is setting sharp thorns around
For fear of being touched

The beginning of the song is so flawless because we get an image of a women, a ghost possibly or some type of person who is not fully human and they are looking on in life. This particular individual is searching for something, yet they are guided by a light, from the candle. Maybe the children are meant to represent innoncence, like the love that Ayu, the narrator in the song, gives to the person who the song is being sung to. Also the dolls are just children's playthings yet they are something that most of us were attached to some point of another, yet the children are ripping the dolls, they are destroying that which is supposed to make them innoncent and care free. Furthermore, look at all of the flower imagery: transient like a flower, blooming, thorns. There is also bird imagery and quite a few naturalistic scenes present (I think Ayu has read Frankenstein or Victorian literature, jk lol). Ever more, we get the question of scenary while in an abyss of despair now this is alarming because abyss depending on the context means hell and to be in an abyss of despair is to be in probably one of the most hellish scences any individual can possibly be confronted with because you are hopeless, but this is hopelessness at its worst. I think that the idea of fear is something that is prevelant in this song, especially ending with the last line but fear has entrapped us all. Whether it be because we are scared to welcome people into our lives or if it is because we want something so desperately and out of fear we will do anything to keep it. Look I am sorry that I rambled on, I had two finals back to back (religious studies and history so I am a bit out of wack currently).
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