[Charts & Rankings] The Official BILLBOARD thread of "You were..." / "BALLAD"

[Crystal_Ageha]

^ But boybands are a whoooooole!~ other story, lol!! (You can only truly understand the power of such boys if you've ever been a true, diehard fangirl..... Unfortunately, I have, and I know the evil that seethes out of such innocent young males! )

[SunshineSlayer]

I personally welcome Billboard. The more sources you have, the more accurate the overall picture becomes. There are sometimes some very interesting sales figure discrepancies between what Oricon reports and what Billboard reports.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by Crystal_Ageha

^ But boybands are a whoooooole!~ other story, lol!! (You can only truly understand the power of such boys if you've ever been a true, diehard fangirl..... Unfortunately, I have, and I know the evil that seethes out of such innocent young males! )

Yeah but the fact is it still sells.

But anyway I honestly don't mind the billboards being the new thing it just has to build up its credibility.

[jeffycue]

billboard is fun!
they rely on airplay and sales (physical/digital).
but some other charts under billboard only counts airlpay... or digital sales... they have so much subcharts. but for japan 100, it think its airplay and sales. i think theres also a 2 week combo for the start of the billboard year.. im not sure. hehehe.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Paparazzi

^ um.. Physical Sales ARE dead.


Digital sales DESTROY physical sales.

Thelma's Soba ni Iru ne sold what, 600,000-700,000 copies, which is a ridiculous amount by today's standards. With Digital sales, it sold over 8,000,000 ringtones and fullsongs.

Which doesn't mean the physical sales are dead (who ever has given you that info lied to you...). Face the fact that Billboard means nothing to Japanese artists and record labels and it will most likely never get the status Oricon has. Counting airplay is pretty stupid as if something can easily be manipulated by record labels it's the radio and TV airplay ^^

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Which doesn't mean the physical sales are dead (who ever has given you that info lied to you...). Face the fact that Billboard means nothing to Japanese artists and record labels and it will most likely never get the status Oricon has. Counting airplay is pretty stupid as if something can easily be manipulated by record labels it's the radio and TV airplay ^^

I agree. Plus in my opinion, airplay doesn't really assess who is popular, but who is popular at the moment. I don't think it's fair to count it along with physical and digital sales. If billboard wants to do a separate chart for that, that's fine.

[*Petit*]

I think it's better to have separate charts, it will be much more precise than any combined chart that will have to be weighted by the company presenting it. I don't understand people complaining about oricon not including digital sales when they have other charts for that readily available. It's not oricon's fault that so many people turn to them for info. In that respect I think billboard is pretty worthless, however like sunshine slayer said it's always better to have more sources to choose from.

[truehappiness]

You were.... jumps to #14 on the Hot 100 and #43 on the Hot Top Airplay charts. New appearance on Hot Single Sales at #4 under Fukuyama, C-ute, and the 9mm group. (#10 for BALLAD / You were...) That's rather inaccurate considering that the two week total for You were... / BALLAD was way more than the total for those. I guess they chose not to count her first week at all! Separating the two single versions doesn't seem like it'd make that much a difference anyway...

She also appears on the Adult Contemporary Airplay chart at #27, after being at #51 last week.

There are a LOT of foreign artists in this chart, and since Miley Cyrus is in the top 5 Hot 100, I don't know if I want to take it too seriously, haha.

[GRACE]

I love how everyone assumes that billboard will NEVER EVER overtake Oricon.

I'm glad I go to a forum where everyone is psychic and can see the future to tell me that Oricon will never fall ever for the rest of eternity <3

[jbrat2219]

^ If it does, we'll probably have grandchildren before it happens LOL j/k.

[truehappiness]

I'm glad I go to a forum where everyone is psychic and can see the future to tell me that Oricon will never fall ever for the rest of eternity <3

I don't think anyone saying that at all. But it's highly unlikely that Billboard will take over (they don't even show exact numbers and so on). Could you imagine some other company overthrowing Billboard here in the US?

[Nackar]

Like people have said before, physical sales aren't DEAD. Yes, they're overshadowed (immensely, sometimes), by digital sales, but numbers are too high for them to be considered dead. Last year, total physical single sales in the US combined to 2 million. In a country with 300 million inhabitants. In Japan, physical singles sold a combined 55 million, in a country with 130 million inhabitants.

I think that says it all XD

[ayumisrael]

Oh I don't think that necessarily billboard won't take over oricon, I'm just not seeing it happening soon. xD

Originally Posted by Paparazzi

^ um.. Physical Sales ARE dead.


Digital sales DESTROY physical sales.

Thelma's Soba ni Iru ne sold what, 600,000-700,000 copies, which is a ridiculous amount by today's standards. With Digital sales, it sold over 8,000,000 ringtones and fullsongs.

Well and where did we know the sales and digital downloads from?
Not from billboard of course. =P

Well those physical sales specially for singles are actually great.

And still even if the number is huge for digital downloads I still don't think that they worth, at least not more than Physical sales from two reasons.

1. The artist/company don't earn half of what they earn for selling a physical copy.
2. Digital sales show how popular a song is and not how popular an artist is.
There are many artists who sold well digitally and not physically and after 1-2 songs they stopped doing well digitally as well. So just because sometimes there are huge digital numbers it's not necessarily a wow for the artist (sometimes it is of course), but it's more of a wow to the specific song.

[Paparazzi]

Ayumi got cheated out of a good position on the hot 100 because they skipped last week. (maybe this is sorta THEIR double week? idk)

Hot 100: #14
Hot 100 Sales: #4
Hot 100 Airplay: #43

[Cherry Dynamite]

Originally Posted by Paparazzi

^ um.. Physical Sales ARE dead.


Digital sales DESTROY physical sales.

Thelma's Soba ni Iru ne sold what, 600,000-700,000 copies, which is a ridiculous amount by today's standards. With Digital sales, it sold over 8,000,000 ringtones and fullsongs.

It's not dead.
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I don't think Billboard will take over Oricon soon.

[Paparazzi]

^ I just wish Recochoku, Oricon and Billboard would combine to form an all-encompassing chart :/