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Old 25th March 2010, 02:44 PM
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this still going, its not like the freaking pv is that good........
and its not like ayu will rise in popularity cause of it, its just plain stupid to think she would copy Lady gaga if ayu already popular and 1 pv wont rise her x200000 in sales.so why would she need to copy some1? specialy at this point in her career. it just dont make sense, and even more when ayu done crazy **** b4. this is nothing new. its been for me 1 of the reason why i like her.
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Old 25th March 2010, 02:59 PM
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Nothing against GaGa, but she didn't invent these outfits, only because her songs are popular therefore when talking about "weird" outfits, people may think about her.
This is the sentence I wanted to see there. Thank you very much.

and thatstacey post... Thank you too. I would quote that post in my signature but it's too long, what a pity.
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Old 25th March 2010, 03:22 PM
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i think ourselves PV is best look for ayu ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hvjjA4RN-U&feature=fvsr

sometimes i also think some other Singer copies from ayu
like Madonna also Lady GaGa

i mean on the Stage Performace
because the cross actually ayu use it before Madonna's Coffession Tour
and Lady GaGa's blooy show for the Song "PAPARAZZI" perfomemace
actually ayu use the bloody show in her 1st Tour in 2000

all i wanna say is "IT'S FAD"
i don't know why people always care about this
this is really STUPID
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Old 25th March 2010, 03:46 PM
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American singers don't make the same profit in foreign countries either.

The current trend is english language songs. Not japanese. I think that is why. Someone said Ayumi doesn't care about her foreign fans but she is writing more and more in english. I don't think she do it because it is exotic trendy thing but because she really desire to communicate to all of us.
why did you use a rolleyes smiley when that was part of the point O_o

In any case, there are a lot of reasons for the US having more international success.

The US doesn't really have as much as a margin for loss in other countries. They are never going to make as much in other places as here. Not many other countries are as big and populous as the US.

In their case, I think, they don't necessarily see expansion into other countries as a complete question of dollars and cents as many companies would. There are other reasons why they want to be there.
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Old 25th March 2010, 05:55 PM
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^Cultural dominance... the same kind of cultural dominance Japan is trying to archieve worldwide using anime and manga right now^^

And... ignore Crystal Ageha, she hates western music with a passion...
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Old 25th March 2010, 06:12 PM
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OMG, I give up . Lol.
I wish the situation would have went like this:

AHS Member #1: "Hey this kind of reminds me of GaGa!"
AHS Members: "Yeah, it reminds me too"
AHS Members: "Cool, Ayu is great!"

The end. Lol.

Seeing the preview just brings up GaGa in my head. Not copying. Not stealing. Not plagiarizing. Just reminding.
Yeah but it doesn't remind me of Gaga, I'm not trying to say that it doesn't look like it could remind someone of her but I'm being honest. Gaga couldn't have been further from my mind when view the pictures from ViVi and now the preview. Maybe it's because I'm not really into Gaga's image as much as I am her music lol.
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Old 25th March 2010, 08:30 PM
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yeah, seems Gaga (i don't like her and I don't know much about her) but seems...
i'm disappointed about the songs until now (Sexy little things, Lady Dinamite I was thinkinh something like my name's WOMEN, and count down), and the pv's too.
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Old 26th March 2010, 01:29 AM
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Random but i just got a Google alert on Ayu for a UK article "Why Japanese Pop Matters" and they said this about Ayu:

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Musically, she has married accessible, mainstream hits with over-the-top costumes and high-concept videos long before Lady Gaga did.
Idk it fits with this threads topic so i thought I'd post it
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Old 26th March 2010, 01:38 AM
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That is a great article, I think it merits its own thread! Thank you so much for bringing it to our attention!
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Old 26th March 2010, 01:39 AM
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why did you use a rolleyes smiley when that was part of the point O_o

In any case, there are a lot of reasons for the US having more international success.

The US doesn't really have as much as a margin for loss in other countries. They are never going to make as much in other places as here. Not many other countries are as big and populous as the US.

In their case, I think, they don't necessarily see expansion into other countries as a complete question of dollars and cents as many companies would. There are other reasons why they want to be there.
You did not make your point clear. Then, why do you say it's all about money? You said,
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Yes, everywhere, it's all about munny.
I can't understand your purpose. Don't you think it costs a lot of money to promote a singer in over 30 countries? You can bet big money loss if promotion is not successful. Also, a minimal margin for loss has no relation to domestic sales nor does it contribute to international success. What do you mean by this?

Do you mean to say American companies do not care about profit but rather, show western culture to other countries? If so, I think you are still wrong. I don't understand how an entertainment company can do this. Their primary goal is money, not cultural enlightenment. I think this is a fair accusation. What do you think?
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Old 26th March 2010, 01:41 AM
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^ wow, that's pretty recent, I searched it. Go The Guardian, it's not just some trashy newspaper either, it's The Guardian. Also talks about alan and some others too!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010...nese-pop-women

Thanks for posting that. Interesting!

Edit: they picked Ladies Night as their best song? That's even more interesting.

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Old 26th March 2010, 01:48 AM
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Most awkward part of the article imo is when the columnist mentions that she's been through multiple cosmetic surgeries... -shakes head-
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Old 26th March 2010, 01:53 AM
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Most awkward part of the article imo is when the columnist mentions that she's been through multiple cosmetic surgeries... -shakes head-
I don't blame them... Sometimes she look too artificial like a barbie. A lot of make up, disgusting colored hair, and too much photoshop is the reason.
She is a natural woman. I know this because I seen many of her childhood pictures, but I can understand why people say she had plastic surgery.
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Old 26th March 2010, 02:02 AM
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Most awkward part of the article imo is when the columnist mentions that she's been through multiple cosmetic surgeries... -shakes head-
Yes, that was a bit out of the blue whether it's true or not, but I think the rest of what she/he wrote is fair. Of course the selection artists is a bit strange as well, but it works in a way, to show variety.
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Old 26th March 2010, 02:16 AM
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I personally think that his adoration of Shiina explains his "haha, Ayu's everything is declining" attitude. Shiina was never as big as Ayu, I think, and I don't think he ever brought that up, you know?
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Old 26th March 2010, 05:36 AM
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I personally think that his adoration of Shiina explains his "haha, Ayu's everything is declining" attitude. Shiina was never as big as Ayu, I think, and I don't think he ever brought that up, you know?
I love Shiina Ringo but seriously, the article coming from some one who talks about the greatness of Nana Kitade and Tommy-cant-speak-english-but-writes-lyrics-in-nonsense-english makes me laugh.
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Old 26th March 2010, 06:23 AM
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Off topic: thanks god this song is not called Sexy little unique things (aka S L U T).

I just think ayu uses the idea of fashion in this PV? It is just being similar to Gaga but it does not mean that is from Gaga..
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Old 26th March 2010, 06:43 AM
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Tommy-cant-speak-english-but-writes-lyrics-in-nonsense-english makes me laugh.
What? Have you heard sono de light speed english version and Can't take my eyes off you? She have a pretty decent english, and I think her lyrics are decent.

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Old 26th March 2010, 06:54 AM
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Those of you who say you didn't even think about Gaga when you saw the SLT preview must have some kind of eye disease. Or be blind...

I'm not gonna argue, it's just my opinion, and alot of other people on youtube and a few here. Most of you are hardcore Ayu fans and cannot really see it from "outside the box". Too caught up in Ayu and getting on the aggressive/defensive side whenever someone says something that doesn't suit your own opinions.

Ayu isn't the number one fashion and trend setter in the world. Not saying Gaga is either, but she has started a new thing, and Ayu is clearly taking alot of inspiration from her.

Didn't have time to read through 5 pages here, but I guess most of you highly disagree because you love her so much
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Old 26th March 2010, 07:01 AM
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Too caught up in Ayu and getting on the aggressive/defensive side whenever someone says something that doesn't suit your own opinions.
What about someone who hasn't seen anything from GaGa? (There are those who have managed to avoid her) I've clearly stated that some fashion designers in this PV are in fact previously used by GaGa, but that doesn't necessarily spell out that Ayu copied GaGa since a LOT of people have used Gareth Pugh and McQueen before.

If Ayu is copying GaGa, then GaGa is copying the fashion editorials all around the world which are what Ayu seems to be drawing her inspiration from. NOT GaGa.

IMO, you're the one who is being blind and not able to see "outside of your box" the possibility that they just so happen to have similar tastes in fashion. I mean, you're pretty much saying "AYU DID COPY GAGA."

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What if Ayu says "GaGa? GaWho?" Where does your argument go then?

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