Ayu getting bashed on ladygaga.com

[waterballoon]

^ I thought your sig was some south park thing until I saw the "RAINBOW" cover before I realized, holy **** it's an Ayu-south-park hybrid!

and oh best thing about the thread = the pic that neme (I think) made.

[pepper]

Even i know Ayu was doing weird things when gaga was little teen, i just think THEY ARE SO DIFFRENT in cause of country... In Japan, every fashion, weird music video is normal. We could discuss like this forever, but it got any sense. Gaga is mainstream. AYU IS JAPANESE. amen.

[Shirlaay]

omg! those gaga fans need to get their facts right to start off with.

[AyuHamasaki01]

This really pisses me off! (and I am a Gaga fan)

[shizukanaotoko]

Originally Posted by ren0210989

move this if it should be in a diferent section.

i was searching google with the words 'lady gaga ayumi hamasaki' when i saw the title Ayumi Hamasaki ripping of Bad romance


i was the second Ayu fan who made an account there, just to say a piece of my mind. they bashed Ayu quite a lot and fiercly there, i just had to post.
this is my post:

Spoiler:

oh, dear god... you gaga monsters are such retards.
Gaga's the unoriginal one.

first of all, Ayu debuted in 1998 with her hit single Poker face, but that doesn't mean too much since there are a lot of same named songs out there.

i won't get into too much general stuff, i think this picture says it all, simple and clean.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3319205_n.jpg

now about Ayumi Hamasaki's Sexy Little Things and Microphone PV's, where you all claim Ayu's trying hard to copy Gaga.

those 2 PV's are parodies, she's mocking Gaga (mostly), she's also mocking Gwen Steffani and Rihana.
Japan, and Ayu are well known for the 'unusual' and 'avangarde'. just take a look at Ayu's earlier PV's like Alterna, Ladies Night, a lot of her live tour performances etc.

Gaga wouldn't even be known if she didn't have all that unusual crap on her. same goes for Gwen, she had her huge single peak while trying to copy Japan's style and harajuku girls, while all Rihanna's hits are covers and/or songs with samples from other well known songs (music wise).

it's sad how they all try to copy Japan and act original. and that's why Ayu's making fun of all of them, it's sad to see what kind of stuff those artists need to sell well, how times have changed... and that's the pure truth.

this isn't the first time Ayu's made fun of American artists. watch her PV Startin'. it makes fun of Britney Spears and Xtina and american film industry. the original Kill Bill is a japanese movie and quite a few of huge horror movie hits.
Americans need Japan more then they wanna admit.

Ayu's a true artist, with style, she's been here for 12 years, while Gaga will fade away as soon as she takes off her idiotic costumes and masks.

i just hate when ppl are so ignorant, i personally have nothing against Gaga, i like a few of her songs, but this is just idiotic.

how did ayu make fun of gwen in sexy little things? did anyone mention hyori's comeback mv for chitty chitty bang bang? if ayu's "copying" gaga, so is hyori...

but thanks guys for standing up for ayu! i hate when people accuse her of copying... i agree that startin' and sexy little things are total parodies but everyone just thinks they are plagiarized mvs -_-

[happiholic★]

I'm sorry. This thread is just as bad as the one on Gaga.com. Ayu is not making fun of Gaga. She is not copying her. Just as Gaga is not copying Ayu. And although I think both groups of fans are making their favorite singer look bad, I don't think one group is more "retarded" than the other. Both threads are making my head hurt.

[primavera♥]

well its saddens me as always to see the gaga fans bashing ayu like so (when theyre both musicians who dont really deserve that). but oh well. let them revel in their ignorance.

[xLuna&1LOVE]

Haha, and according to Grace Jones... Lady Gaga is here the copy cat.

Translation from the dutch msn.nl
(sorry for my crappy english)
Also Grace Jones doesn't like Lady Gaga very much. In the UK Guardian, Jones gave her opinion about the songstress: "I don't praise her that high. She required me to work together, but I refused. I prefer working with somebody who's creative and original, and who doesn't copy me. She often wears outfits, I have already wear before. I'm quite angry about that. No, I never would buy a ticket for a performance of her.



Well, there's a truth.
Really, the Gaga-fans are really that Gaga. Stupid idiots they are.

[Andrenekoi]

^And Ayu fans are just as stupid...

Grace Jones should had collaborated to Gaga...

[ren0210989]

Originally Posted by shizukanaotoko

how did ayu make fun of gwen in sexy little things? did anyone mention hyori's comeback mv for chitty chitty bang bang? if ayu's "copying" gaga, so is hyori...

but thanks guys for standing up for ayu! i hate when people accuse her of copying... i agree that startin' and sexy little things are total parodies but everyone just thinks they are plagiarized mvs -_-

the long white hair look, she looks like gwen, with the short black hair, it's rihanna...


maybe the word parody isn't the right choice...
it's sad what people need to do to be popular these days, i feel like that's what ayu tought...

[Delirium-Zer0]

I feel more like Ayu was paying homage to women in Western music who are celebrated rather than chastised for being strong, independent women rather than marketed based on a cutesy, vapid appearance.

Ren, I feel like your post at the Gaga forums was a bit too harsh against Gaga and it was unnecessarily nasty... it kinda made alot of us look bad.
Amorphose, your post was MUCH better and I thank you for more accurately representing ayu fandom as a whole.

[Kingdom]

Originally Posted by ren0210989

move this if it should be in a diferent section.

i was searching google with the words 'lady gaga ayumi hamasaki' when i saw the title Ayumi Hamasaki ripping of Bad romance


i was the second Ayu fan who made an account there, just to say a piece of my mind. they bashed Ayu quite a lot and fiercly there, i just had to post.
this is my post:

Spoiler:

oh, dear god... you gaga monsters are such retards.
Gaga's the unoriginal one.

first of all, Ayu debuted in 1998 with her hit single Poker face, but that doesn't mean too much since there are a lot of same named songs out there.

i won't get into too much general stuff, i think this picture says it all, simple and clean.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3319205_n.jpg

now about Ayumi Hamasaki's Sexy Little Things and Microphone PV's, where you all claim Ayu's trying hard to copy Gaga.

those 2 PV's are parodies, she's mocking Gaga (mostly), she's also mocking Gwen Steffani and Rihana.
Japan, and Ayu are well known for the 'unusual' and 'avangarde'. just take a look at Ayu's earlier PV's like Alterna, Ladies Night, a lot of her live tour performances etc.

Gaga wouldn't even be known if she didn't have all that unusual crap on her. same goes for Gwen, she had her huge single peak while trying to copy Japan's style and harajuku girls, while all Rihanna's hits are covers and/or songs with samples from other well known songs (music wise).

it's sad how they all try to copy Japan and act original. and that's why Ayu's making fun of all of them, it's sad to see what kind of stuff those artists need to sell well, how times have changed... and that's the pure truth.

this isn't the first time Ayu's made fun of American artists. watch her PV Startin'. it makes fun of Britney Spears and Xtina and american film industry. the original Kill Bill is a japanese movie and quite a few of huge horror movie hits.
Americans need Japan more then they wanna admit.

Ayu's a true artist, with style, she's been here for 12 years, while Gaga will fade away as soon as she takes off her idiotic costumes and masks.

i just hate when ppl are so ignorant, i personally have nothing against Gaga, i like a few of her songs, but this is just idiotic.

i stopped reading your rant once i saw that you called them "retards"

you say you hate ignorance but you are appearing pretty ignorant yourself.

[kirei_ayumi]

such dimwits have no knowledge at all...

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by ero-kakkoii

i stopped reading your rant once i saw that you called them "retards"

you say you hate ignorance but you are appearing pretty ignorant yourself.

This. ero-kakkoii, ily because you speak the truth.

And Ayu's blond hair, red lips look is not to mock Gwen. The video isn't to mock anyone. And even if it were, there are many other women who rock that look. X-tina's Bionic, anyone?

[primavera♥]

^^ its mildly amusing that the more sensible sides of fanbases never shine through. and one is always stuck being overwhelmed with the idiocy. there always room for more education. as that theres not so many dimwits as u say.


really the situation is embarrassing as an ayu fan. we should really try not to sound so harsh. i know its hard not to considering one is using defense mechanisms but stil. . . .its only going to make fans on the other side more angry, using offensive words. its better to make them angry by sounding smarter than them.

[Kingdom]

Originally Posted by Love Shine

This. ero-kakkoii, ily because you speak the truth.

And Ayu's blond hair, red lips look is not to mock Gwen. The video isn't to mock anyone. And even if it were, there are many other women who rock that look. X-tina's Bionic, anyone?

thank you, i usually respect and agree with your posts as well.

[waterballoon]

well at least ren was making an effort, cos the ppl on gagadaily.com weren't making such sense anyway lol

this whole "who copied who" is REALLY pointless to argue about because you can show all the facts in the world, but if stans wanna believe that their idols are Jesus, then there's no use trying to explain anything.

come, sensible fans of Ayu and Gaga, let us ignore the stans and love both women with equal love!

[Kingdom]

Originally Posted by waterballoon

well at least ren was making an effort, cos the ppl on gagadaily.com weren't making such sense anyway lol

i wouldn't call it an effort as he/she/it pretty much went into the deal with a negative attitude and addressed it the wrong way. you think those people are going to listen to his/her/its thoughts after being called retards? nope.

[Neo Daydream]

I like GaGa but I was an Ayu fan first (since 2003).

I think it is stupid to say that either of them copied eachother...
GaGa probably didn't know who Ayu was before they were on Music Station together...

on a side note,ren0210989, I don't see how Ayu is mocking artists like Gwen Stefani and Rihanna...
remember in that CNN interview (in 2007 was it?) when Ayu said she didn't compare herself to other artists?
I don't think she worries about other artists, she just tries to do her best

[waterballoon]

Originally Posted by ero-kakkoii

i wouldn't call it an effort as he/she/it pretty much went into the deal with a negative attitude and addressed it the wrong way. you think those people are going to listen to his/her/its thoughts after being called retards? nope.

some people only listen after getting a scolding. lol but some effort > no effort... as much as I advise and encourage ignoring stans, it still kinda pisses me off to think that there ARE ignorant people out there who think that Ayu "copies" Gaga, or vice-versa, and it would be good if these misunderstandings were all addressed!