CDL10-11 talk

[Melodie]

Having watched it just now, I must say... I'm surprised. I was disappointed when I first saw the pictures, and the setlist seemed random to me, but overall it was a very cohesive, and entertaining concert. I especially liked the stage, though normally I prefer a standard one, this was a nice change, and the lights were impressive. My only complaints would be the ghastly Humming, which was again included, and unfortunately Ayu's voice. It didn't do the songs justice. She struggled a lot, and her vibrato never sounded more unnatural. I also found it odd when she suddenly stopped singing during Last angel. I might buy this DVD, but I think Ayu should stop doing countdown lives. They're not as good as the tour lives, plus her fans would get more excited about the tour itself.

Fav performances: Last angel, Duty, Marionette, Free & Easy, Endless Sorrow, Virgin Road.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by Melodie

I might buy this DVD, but I think Ayu should stop doing countdown lives. They're not as good as the tour lives, plus her fans would get more excited about the tour itself.

Fav performances: Last angel, Duty, Marionette, Free & Easy, Endless Sorrow, Virgin Road.

In my top 3 concerts there's actually two CDLs, namely CDL1011 and CDL0910, followed by AT08(AT10 is probably soon gonna appear in this top3, she can't lose with that setlist) And I think many people feel that way about CDLs because, while tours have a bigger budget(not THAT much bigger anymore unless AT11 is huge, because this CDL was pretty damn huge budgetwise), CDLs usually bring all these surprises, songs and performances you wouldn't expect to hear again(I NEVER expected to ever see a non-playback Marionette! or hear Duty, Bold & Delicious, Endless Sorrow, Mirrorcle World or Free & Easy again!) and they generally feel more emotional to me. She hasn't cried her ballads to death yet leaving less emotion for the last date
While tours are more predictable, you know there will be a mix of new albums tracks, latest singles and biggest hits. And you gotta wait months, usually a year or longer, for them to be out, usually there is nothing left to surprise you unless you managed to keep out of info threads and turned off avas/sigs for months. CDLs could bring anything

I for one always liked her CDL(with live broadcast) + tour system alot, though she could try to get her tours out before CDL...also CDLs show us the actual state of her voice. The improvement CDL0708(crappy), CDL0809(almost as crappy + loooooots of fishy), CDL0910(definite improvement but singing her hardest songs) to CDL1011(surprisingly good in big parts and even in old, high songs) is impressive.

[Chritopher]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

I NEVER expected to ever see a non-playback Marionette!

OMG! What makes you think that Marionette in Asia Tour wasn't live?!
With all those random off-key notes which were different each concert...
Talking about playback, it was Decision, which had PERFECT pitch, not Marionette which was veery far from perfection. And Ayu tends to use perfect-pitched playback like in Step you during old CDLives.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by Chritopher

OMG! What makes you think that Marionette in Asia Tour wasn't live?!
With all those random off-key notes which were different each concert...
Talking about playback, it was Decision, which had PERFECT pitch, not Marionette which was veery far from perfection. And Ayu tends to use perfect-pitched playback like in Step you during old CDLives.

The fact that both Marionette performances we got from AT08 had exactly the same vocals, there was absolutely NO micnoice(which doesn't happen with that type of mic) and ther choreo seemed to have no effect on her though her voice was very bad at that time. She might have sang Marionette live for some concerts, but I am nearly positive the ones we got recorded weren't...

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

The fact that both Marionette performances we got from AT08 had exactly the same vocals, there was absolutely NO micnoice(which doesn't happen with that type of mic) and ther choreo seemed to have no effect on her though her voice was very bad at that time. She might have sang Marionette live for some concerts, but I am nearly positive the ones we got recorded weren't...

Both concerts we got were edited... They should be no parameter to define how she sounded and if she sang live...

[Chritopher]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Both concerts we got were edited... They should be no parameter to define how she sounded and if she sang live...

Indeed. You can't trust edited TV or DVD version. Only CDLives and concert bootlegs count.
It was sad that Dream on was horrible. Ayu's voice was so tired she couldn't hit any note at all.

[Chritopher]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

The fact that both Marionette performances we got from AT08 had exactly the same vocals, there was absolutely NO micnoice(which doesn't happen with that type of mic) and ther choreo seemed to have no effect on her though her voice was very bad at that time. She might have sang Marionette live for some concerts, but I am nearly positive the ones we got recorded weren't...

My opinion was based mostly on bootlegs from several dates in China and they were different and had off-key notes.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Melodie

They're not as good as the tour lives, plus her fans would get more excited about the tour itself.

Fav performances: Last angel, Duty, Marionette, Free & Easy, Endless Sorrow, Virgin Road.

I think u don't know what role do the CDLs have on her career...

Ayu has 3 main concerts during the year, and all of them have an important role on her career:

Arena Tours: Those are meant to promote the album and are meant to attract everyone from huge obsessive fans to casual listeners... She sings the new album singles/tracks and her concert hits. Arena Tours are the most important product of her career, even bigger than her albums and pvs... and as a consequence, they have the higher budget...

A-nation: A-nation is the opposite to Arena Tours... Here, the goal is to promote Ayu among people who aren't really her fans, those who went to A-nation to watch the whole thing or fanbase of other artists... That's why A-nation setlist is mostly made of a mix of her most well known songs, summer hits and the latest single, the stuff someone who is not really into Ayu may recognize and like... If someone who is not really into her watch her here and likes it, she may sell some more singles or even conquer new public to her arena tours....

Countdown Live: Finally, CDL.... CDL are made to her hardcore fans... That's why CDL setlist has the most obscure songs of all of her concerts... If someone wanna see a live of an old album track that she never sang or barelly did it, it will most likelly be performed at CDLs... Since CDL06-07, at CDLs she also put the concept and performances of the next Arena Tour to be tested in front of an live audience... What songs should she recover? What kind of outfit will work? Does this performance works on a stage? It's a mix of concert for people who really know her discography with payed reharshal

At least, this is how I see those... and IMO, she can't just stop doing any of them, cuz they aren all meant to promote different aspects of her career, and aimed to different people^^

[Ayumi_lover]

Originally Posted by Melodie

Having watched it just now, I must say... I'm surprised. I was disappointed when I first saw the pictures, and the setlist seemed random to me, but overall it was a very cohesive, and entertaining concert. I especially liked the stage, though normally I prefer a standard one, this was a nice change, and the lights were impressive. My only complaints would be the ghastly Humming, which was again included, and unfortunately Ayu's voice. It didn't do the songs justice. She struggled a lot, and her vibrato never sounded more unnatural. I also found it odd when she suddenly stopped singing during Last angel. I might buy this DVD, but I think Ayu should stop doing countdown lives. They're not as good as the tour lives, plus her fans would get more excited about the tour itself.

Fav performances: Last angel, Duty, Marionette, Free & Easy, Endless Sorrow, Virgin Road.

You're not getting the ideas of CDLs. There are a lot of people who prefer CDL to her tours because CDLs usually have wider tracklist