So omg Ayu Wedding discussion thread~

[channy]

Originally Posted by Nessa

...you think Ayu and her PR people are liars
...THEN have an entire company lie about it

...you must have a really high opinion of Ayu

I guess that's pop business, right? You know that before you start liking a popsinger, so I am fine with the fact that many things are not as real as some ppl pretend it.

[Lanz16]

Ayumi Schwarz... interesting new name!
Its kinda awkward if it is on her next album. xD

[hsienko]

Originally Posted by Nessa

So, you think Ayu and her PR people are liars and that she's irresponsible enough to have unprotected sex before a huge album release, multiple live preformances, and a huge 2 day concert event, and allow herself to get pregnant. THEN have an entire company lie about it.

Nice. You must have a really high opinion of Ayu.

Hey, **** happens. Condoms break, contraception doesn't work 100% of the time. And like you can really believe PR people, they say what the client wants them to say to the press and what may not be the truth.

[ayu_ready?]

not feeling good about this

a person at aramatheydidnt LJ called Mannie a "beaded eurotrash". sorry offended ayufans, but I somewhat agree to this quote. that how he looks to me. he looks worthless. and she's high-class

[waterballoon]

I think.. it's easy to disagree with the marriage, oppose their decision or even outright be anti about it, but man... insulting either of them with words like "eurothrash" I mean... hey, it's not like we know Mannie personally. Personally those who've had coffee with him in LA could testify that he's a good person, but um yeah, I wouldn't call Mannie an angel sent from heaven, but I wouldn't call him hobo/bearded eurothrash/etc.. that's just unfair to the man.

[miskiq]

i guess everyone is just concern about ayu as she just knew him for about 4 months and took a very big decision to marry him. She had greatly shocked everyone with this news. I'm sure she know what she's doing. It might be a right or wrong decision for her. At the end of the day, only she can decide what's best for herself. As a fan we can only wish happiness for her.

[emi♡]

she's not THAT high class lol Just because she has money...now...lol it's not like she grew up super rich or with any kind of status...

why would Ayu discriminate against someone like that? What does it say about her values that she's actually in love with him and has married him?

Obviously, things like that don't matter to her.

And it's not like she needs anymore munny from a husband to like, help her family, or future family sustain themselves, like most people.

Manny has been taking care of himself all this time. I dont see why he wouldnt be able to when they are married.

I think people are just, afraid that he'll mooch or whatever.

And personally, I think Ayu is a big girl and knows how to handle her munny, or should know, by now, and if she lets him mooch, then who gives a crap lol It's her decision...Not like she cant afford it anyway.

[kendelle]

Sorry the Spanish translation from Google doesn't explain much on the question you have >_<

Ayu and Mannie announced their engagement on Dec 31/Jan1 and married in Las Vegas on Jan 1 at approximately 6:00pm after flying over from Japan. There's not been much other news and as far as we can tell, no comment from Avex. Ayu and Mannie themselves have been really quiet on Twitter although Mannie appears to be on Facebook (he accepted my Facebook request this morning lol) from time to time.

We've seen some online articles about the marriage but we're not sure how Japan at large is taking the news xD

[Justex]

My Spanish is not perfect, but does this say that TA boycots Ayu, because they think the marriage was only a promotional stunt to boost her sales?

If so, I don't really believe that.

[dulceku]

I'm just translating this poorly written text, full of reiteration and lacking of grammatical resources. Yet I tried to make it easier to read, because even me, a Spanish, got problems to understand it. So don't bite me o_<!

Alarming news:

Like everybody knows, Jpop Queen Ayumi Hamasaki just got married and it was oficially anounced through TA (Team Ayu) and twitter, and instantly Japan got paralyzed with the new. Immediately TA members expressed their doubts about the veracity of the marriage, all because Ayu and Mannie don't know each other for too long. Fast the fanclub Chairmen board was called, who are fans that represent all TA before Ayu and Avex Group. Some hours later through official website of fan president it was announced a press conference to announce this shocking new.

This new rumbled to all Asia, the impact was so big that the Avex Group chairman (Masato Max Matsuura) felt in an uncomfortable position, the new was:

"As representative of the fans who belong to TA, we congratulate Ayu for this new, however we don't stop thinking that there's something behind this marriage, as representative of TA fans we have to not only think of fans but also to get the true known, through this statement to Max Matsuura we wanna let you know that we won't allow to get Ayu's followers to get involved in a lie, we won't allow TA getting mixed in causes with for-profit that only will benefit Avex Group economically."

In order to Avex Group chairman to take seriously this statement, the TA president himself called a "Day 0", consisting on not a single TA member buy the new Ayu album, Love songs, and to give this happening known between their friends. The "Day 0" was called for Jan 2nd 2011, hours after Ayu's marriage with Mannie. Avex Group announced in their official site that there wasn't any change on the sales, but on Japanese National Transparency Registry it was reported the opposite, since it appears that it was one of the worst sales day for this album. This topic immediately was know all through Japan and Max Matsuura and Ayu got prohibited to talk about it, according to their lawyers.

Also in Yahoo Japan, TA presidents announced:

"Ayu, though we are unconditional fans, we won't allow to get manipulated using this situation to get economic benefits, we are happy for your marriage but we feel that there's something behind this, we hope that it's just a bad feelin and if it was real we would feel betrayed by our idol."

Currently in Japan there's a conflict about this issue, it's not clear if they're trying to manipulate the fans, that would cost Ayu the trust they have in her and her complete career in Asia, China, Korea, and Taiwan. Also some fans are getting ready, waiting for this feeling isn't real since everyone would feel betrayed like already happened years ago when Ayu announced she was marrying a chinese artist but this marriage was canceled months later. In the Japanese TV they tried to get the opinion of Avex group chairman but the only thing they got was his negativity.

We can only wait to see what happens, if this marriage has a double intention can cost Ayu her career not only in Asia but also worldwide.

This all keeps on each fan's discreetness and we can only wait what the future holds, without a doubt this marriage is between wall and sword, remember that japanese fans already pressured Ayu to make her apologize publicly and make her retract for several things, like the happening of twitter when the fans pressured her to stop talking in english to do it japanese, and even made her apologize for talking in english.

Without a doubt we have to be aware of this issue and my only thing to say left is that this will keep in each Ayumi Hamasaki fan decision.

Drama, much?

juanes6, where did you read this? And what was his source?
Reading it, it felt like the writter actually read about Ayu's marriage but he made all the rest in his mind o_o!

[JackieRos]

What the effff supposebly TA fans are not happy with ayu's marriage since ayu and manny only known each other for a short time and
fans think that this is a stunt to get more sales that's
why presidents of TA made january 2nd day zero
where they asked TA members not to buy love songs
theres conflict in japan because they dont know wether ayus marriage is real or not

someone can translate the whole thing I'm tired


Late


Hmmmmm wether this article is true or not it's interesting

[fuawas]

Well, first of all please tell to the guy that wrote the article that there are some beautiful signes called comas and dots; they're really useful.

Second, it basically says that Japanese people are shocked and they don't believe in this marriage. Also, it says the top presidents of TA met and talked about making a press conference... it seems that they did it... I didn't know that and I thought no one made a press conference. It also says that TA fans wanted to boycot Love Songs not buying the album on January 2nd.
Oh and also, it seems that Max and Ayu are forbidden to talk about the marriage.

LOL It looks worse than the end of the world
I don't believe this article, there isn't even a source... IMO the guy that wrote it made it up.

@dulceku oh! you translated it! haha
Thanks! And yes, it's poorly written >.< I also think the guy made up all the article.

[emi♡]

Honestly, I can understand fans in Japan being scared or suspicious...I mean, it's only the norm for people to retire and stuff when this happens...and I guess there are a lot of publicity stunts around...

But I don't really believe his sources are legit at all...

and in any case, I dont really give a ef what Japanese fans think anyway lol

[dulceku]

Originally Posted by fuawas

Well, first of all please tell to the guy that wrote the article that there are some beautiful signes called comas and dots; they're really useful.

Second, it basically says that Japanese people are shocked and they don't believe in this marriage. Also, it says the top presidents of TA met and talked about making a press conference... it seems that they did it... I didn't know that and I thought no one made a press conference. It also says that TA fans wanted to boycot Love Songs not buying the album on January 2nd.
Oh and also, it seems that Max and Ayu are forbidden to talk about the marriage.

LOL I don't believe this... there isn't even a source... IMO the guy that wrote the article made it up.

@dulceku oh! you translated it! haha
Thanks! And yes, it's poorly written >.< I also think the guy made up all the article.

THANK YOU. My eyes burned when I read it.
I think that this is just a random trying to get more views by making up the 90% of what he wrote. Shame on him!

[U-GO-BOY]

oh please.. let Ayu marry whom she wants to marry.. it's her decision and as a fan I'd never question her decisions.. if it's that what she wants then I accept it and am happy for her

[HELVENEUE]

so for those who don't understand or don't want to bother reading the translation (lazies like myself)

basically what the passage says is that according to the author, a majority of TA fans including the president of TA, have come to the conclusion that ayu's marriage is an elaborate scheme in order to boost sales/publicity/etc etc.

supposedly this was all communicated through some kind of press conference/statement. also these supposed TA fans instigated a "DAY 0" as it were, wherein no member of TA would be buying Love songs.

This is all very tabloid-y if you ask me.

[Azmaria]

I only say "...."

I wonder why now articles like this come out, instead of wishing Ayu the best. If this is true, it is sad, if not, the guy who wrote this can go to the corner and shame himself

[koumori]

Honestly, some ayu-stans need to go outside and do something different than obsess over another human being.

[BlackSilence]

Somehow I was waiting for something like that to pop up..I smell that one part of this is true...lol Oh Japan, don't you love your idols.. to the point where you think you OWN them..>_>

[miki_beland]

it's full of lies and full of spelling mistakes... -_-