Just let it rain in the Girls' Generation ♥ 11th thread!

[HEAVEN~Destiny~]

I've loved BAD GIRL since the album came out... I still do!! I'm so happy to finally see a proper HQ live of the song!!!

[4minute Girl]

who choreographed bad girl?

[AyUmIXx]

wow i really love their black outfits for the latest concerts!
they all look more matured up!
when they were wearing white, they were like angels..
then when they wearing the black, they are like totally BAD GIRLS haha XDD

i think Bad Girl is choreographed by Rino Nakasone~

[hearted]

OMGOMGOMG that genie remix needs to be released in HQ studio version right now *___________*
waahhh they got so many screaamss
gosh BAD GIRL is so perfect, it only needs more yuri+hyo+yoona, since they are kinda invincible in that song :x
oh and that choreo part @ 5:14 is just.... wtf are they even trying to do there

Originally Posted by noisy_harmony

Gotta looove Tiffany's rapping, she's already in my imaginary SM THE RAP subunit

i still need that in my life

[Pow!]

Today KBS World's 7 Wonders Performance right from Jeju Island. This event was held to promote Jeju Island to become one of the world's 7 wonders~



Japan 1st Tour backstage pic:



And more pics from Vogue:

Spoiler:

credit: vogue.com ; soshikim♥@soshified.com

Spoiler:

credit: Yurui.kr ; yoonyul.com

[y_nathz]

omg the baguette yoona

[AyUmIXx]

wow vogue photoshoots are nice!
thanks for sharing..

and i wonder what's SM THE RAP?
they want to produce new unit?

[noisy_harmony]

^ no that's us fooling around

[y_nathz]

that someone is actually believed SM THE RAP is real, it's indeed an amazing idea! you should work for SM, nat!

[AyUta]

I had no idea Kesha made the demo to run devil run I just listened to hers, but...i like snsd's better :O thats cool though .

[Pow!]

Ooo~! finally silis spoke up about the 'lipsyncing' issue.

Spoiler:

silis7noy2 @ soompi [19/07/2011]


Sorry for responding late to people who pm me.(But feel free to pm me about anything snsd though I cant guarantee quick replies ): ~ ) About this lipsyncing discussion:


There is a misunderstanding about some SNSD performances "lipsyncing"

The bottom line is that the majority of SNSD's performances are sung live, more than most people realize in fact, and indeed SNSD's live performances outweigh anything else significantly such that SNSD is undeniably recognized in in Korea and Japan as the dependable high performance group.

Now, dance artists doing concerts will have some stages that are not full 100% live - usually those requiring high performance dance routines. This is same for any performance artists in Korea, America or anywhere. But even for these few stages SNSD sings much more than most people realize.

For an average person it is often very hard to determine the degree of live/lipsync in these high performance stages because of real-time audio processing that goes on. For example if a vocal backtrack is used and the volume is put up too much it starts to sound like lipsync even when it is really sung live. Or when the live vocal track is heavily processed to reduce stage noise the final mix can sound less live-like. And there are many more complex audio issues that can cause live/lipsync misunderstanding like this because the first goal of these audio processings is not to make it sound live but to make it sound clear and audible.

Plus the fact that SNSD is capable of CD-like live performance ironically addes to these misunderstandings. Some laymen listening to SNSD MusicBank Tokyo dome performances would get confused and say it sounds like lipsync.

And for TV performances things are even more confusing because of even more audio processing going on, Japan TV is more confusing in this regard.
Observe the Mr Taxi performance performance on Hey Hey Hey on June 6th. It sounds mostly like backtrack vocals with just little singing by SNSD and some people were again accusing of lipsyincing.

Then on a preview clip later Hey Hey Hey revealed something different
http://tvpot.daum.ne...33825724&rtes=y
They showed a clip of the original June 6 Mr Taxi performance that revealed that SNSD were obviously singing live, showing that Hey Hey Hey pretty much replaced the original live track with a different one.


The conclusion is that SNSD lipsyncing is rare (mostly only done when there is equipment/venue problem). And some SNSD performances are mistaken and misunderstood as lipsyncing. As natural part of high performance artists' routines some parts of singing can be aided by vocal backtracks as needed and even these minor parts of SNSD routines are misunderstood and negatively hyped. The claim about 95% lipsyncing or girls being lazy is just unfounded.

It's just another issue for SNSD that is ultimately irrelevant. Irrelevant because people eventually recognize the performances, one or two misunderstandings won't affect the big picture. What would matter is the final verdict from the people.

In Korea SNSD is considered the best live performing female idol group. That's the general consensus and in Korea it's very hard for an idol to get recognized as an artist but SNSD is one of only very few who are starting to get recognized as such.

"There is something different about SNSD's stage from other girlgroups. I just get glued to the screen when they are on"
"I don't know since when but when I watch SNSD preformance I start to get goosebumps... I can clearly see their growth..."
"
These are just few comments but I am showing it to you because these aren't from music fans but they are from Korean housewives and these are typical of public responses these days.

Japan has a different culture of idols and there SNSD's status as an artist is already established. And SNSD hasn't even really shown their everything like showing their true vocal prowess on high end music shows like they did on La La La, Chocolate etc. Trust me next year it's going to be yet different again in Japan (:



--

And for people who asked for concert and Hey3 fan accounts sorry I won't have time (Unlike Korea, Japanese snsd stuff are scattered all over making it hard)

But just know that anytime SNSD is on the response in Japan is always amazing, the concert and Hey3 no exceptions

Here's a couple of typical response after the concert

Dear Soshi, you've done it the First Japan Tour!! Even with such hard schedule you have given us Japanese SNSD fans a greatly moving and exciting experience!! You have overcome various incidents, and entertained us with the greatest of performances!! We were able to experience something truly wonderful!! Truly it is SNSD now! http://twitter.com/#...002971733954560


Ah you know what, once again I was reminded that there will not be an idol who can surpass SNSD
http://twitter.com/c...925115351834624

SNSD concert... I want to talk about how I felt... but I cannot even put it in words. I am sorry.
http://twitter.com/L...932255269404672

I agree with silis, since it's kind of strange how they're always performed live in Korean music shows when it's not like that in Japanese music shows '__'a
And true, in the Hey3x Special Live preview, it was clearly shown that they sung MR. TAXI live before, totally different with the broadcasted audio.

Of course they did lipsynced in some occasions but it's understandable. Even as a fan, I hate it when singers lipsync, but we know better than that because there must be a reason why they did it. Like Tiffany said before, she and Taeyeon know exactly how it feels like for a singer when they can't use their voice to sing (refer: Tiffany with her cord nodules in 2009 and Taeyeon getting sick in 2010), it's not a pleasant feelings, and it's very heartbreaking to be seen actually.

Sorry if it's random.. Just wanna share my opinion here since people have been talking about this lately ==a





Edit:
Apparently, Sooyoung fell from the stage at the Fukuoka concert ending on the 18th. The staff came from the back to help her and all of the girls were very worried, and Sooyoung came back laughing at herself while all of the girls crowded her looking very worried.
And it was said that Yoona's dad and sister came to the final concert.

Spoiler:

[FANACC] Sooyoung fell from the stage because she were just overwhelming fun but she was alright. The staffs also helped to pull her up to finish the performance. Sooyoung was even laughing at herself.

cr: minagallagher

YoonA was pretty sick during the concert today
SooYoung had a fall today
Sooyoung fell from the stage. Members and audiences were surprised. Staff came from the back to carry her. She came back at the end.
“Sooyoung after falling incident: ‘I’m alright. I was embarrassed so I couldn’t come back. Did you have fun?’”

“Until SY returned, Taeyeon didn’t speak and looked surrpised. When SY returned Taeyeon had teary eyes and approached SY with a happy face.”
‘After Sooyoung came back on stage, Yoona rushed over to her, looked very worried at her and cried.’
‘Yoona’s physical condition today wasn’t good. She coughed a lot and couldn’t drink water in one gulp.

[AyUmIXx]

y_nathz, haha lol sorry that i didn't really backtrack to previous pages lols...
it'd be great if there's SM the rap consist of SM rap singers.. haha XDD

Pow!, thanks for sharing the explanation from soshified.
but sigh, some ppl will still think that the girls are still lipsyching T__T
a friend of mine who also attended one of the Japan concerts also said they were lipsynching..and i donno what to believe, because i myself think that they were actually lipsynch too. but i understand that they hv to lip in some fast dance songs to save energy, coz we all know they've been flying here and there in short time..

oh well, i really hope those ppl who doubt, will take time to watch their acoustic performances, they are definitely amazing.

[Pow!]

^hm I think it's not about which one to believe (in your story case) because in the concert they indeed lipsynced for some of the dance songs for some reasons.
Why did I said some reasons, it's because us fans still don't really know the exact reason why they did that. We all know that they're more than capable to sing those songs live (like Genie and all those songs they've performed live before), and there must be some reason why they didn't in the concert. Was it because the concert was 3-hours long, with 32 songs, and because the dance moves are exhausting, etc etc there are tons of reasons that could be think of but we don't know for sure. What I know is that for the ITNW Tour, SM said that they didn't performed some of the songs fully live because they wanted to focus on the dancing. Was it still because of that? Maybe.

A skeptical person may think of them as excuses (and yes they are excuses) and said that the girls are lazy, but us fans should know better than that. Just believe in them and try to understand. Negative thoughts appeared because sometimes people just refused to understand.

I think what silis meant to clarify is more about the lipsyncing on tv performances accusations since we've seen the real deal behind Hey3x performance. Because if you think of it, why they only did it in Japanese shows while they almost never did it in Korean shows? And moreover they're just starting their career in Japan, so why they must ruin their reputation? As a rookie in Japanese music world, of course they don't want to get a red mark for their report card, thus they're working hard to get a good impression. People just have to sit down, relax, and just calmly think about these things before thinking negatively. Negativity is bad for health.

[AyUmIXx]

^ that's why i hate to argue with some other artists' fans who are angry over SNSD for being this popular but they can only lipsynch? and they will accuse them as only to show looks, hips, hotpants, body.. etc... I don't know what to tell them to be understanding. they'll keep on mocking and mocking the girls. one thing for sure, they are definitely jealous.
well yea for me, i know that the girls can sing and dance very well because i'm a huge fan of them and i follow their every TV live performances.

[AyusakiFan]

It's what we've all been waiting for! Girls' Generation's 1st Asia Tour DVD is finally up for preorder on YA!

Girls' Generation - The 1st Asia Tour: Into the New World (2 DVD + Photobook + Folded Poster) (Korea Version)
Girls' Generation - The 1st Asia Tour : Into the New World (2 DVD + Photobook + Poster in Tube) (Korea Version)

Girls' Generation - The 1st Asia Tour : Into the New World (2 DVD + Photobook + Poster in Tube) (Korea Version)

Girls' Generation kicked off their first Asia tour Into the New World in Seoul on December 19-20, 2009. The girls followed in 2010 with additional encore concerts in Korea and overseas stops in Shanghai, Taiwan, and Japan. This exciting two-disc concert release is a live recording of their February 2010 encore concert at Seoul's Olympic Park Fencing Stadium. Other than performing hits like Gee, Genie, Chocolate Love, and Baby Baby, the girls also prepared special performances and solo stages, including Soo Young's Santa Baby, Tae Yeon's Hush Hush, Sunny's Sunny, Yuri's 1, 2 Step, Yoon A's "Introduce Me a Good Man", Jessica and Tiffany's duet Caramel Coffee, Seo Hyun's Sixteen Going on Seventeen, and Hyo Yeon's dance special. Watch out also for guest appearances by labelmates Hee Chul, Lee Teuk, Shin Dong, Amber, and Key!
The 1st Asia Tour: Into the New World DVD set includes making-of features (rehearsal, backstage, interview) and a concert photobook.

소녀시대 - The 1st ASIA TOUR “Into the new world” (2DVDs + 포토북 + 지관통포스터) (한국판)

*Screen Format: 1.85:1 아나몰픽 와이드 스크린
*Sound Mix: PCM 2.0 / 돌비 디지털 스테레오 5.1

DISC 1 [GIRLS’ GENERATION The 1st ASIA TOUR]
소녀시대 2010 아시아 투어 콘서트 서울 앙코르 라이브 Part I
TRACK LIST
01. NINE ANGELS
02. 소원을 말해봐 (GENIE)_ROCK TRONIC REMIX VER.
03. SHOW! SHOW! SHOW!
04. 소녀시대 (Girls’ Generation)
05. BEGINNING
06. 멤버소개
07. IT’S FANTASTIC
08. ETUDE
09. OOH LA-LA!
10. KISSING YOU
11. 1년 後 [ONE YEAR LATER]_제시카, 온유
12. 좋은 사람 있으면 소개시켜줘 [윤아] feat.이특, 신동
13. SUNNY [써니]
14. UMBRELLA [티파니]
15. HUSH HUSH; HUSH HUSH [태연]
16. CHOCOLATE LOVE
17. HONEY (소원)
18. DEAR. MOM
19. 영원히 너와 꿈꾸고 싶다 (FOREVER)
20. 사랑은 선율을 타고 (DAY BY DAY)
21. 동화 (MY CHILD)

DISC 2 [GIRLS’ GENERATION The 1st ASIA TOUR]
소녀시대 2010 아시아 투어 콘서트 서울 앙코르 라이브 Part II

콘서트 메이킹 필름 : 콘서트 리허설, 대기실, 멤버들 개인 인터뷰 포함

TRACK LIST
22. BARBIE GIRL [제시카] FEAT.KEY (SHINee)
23. SANTA BABY [수영]
24. 라벨: 모음곡 「거울」제 4 곡 「어릿광대의 아침노래」[서현]
25. SIXTEEN GOING ON SEVENTEEN [서현]
26. SINGIN’ IN THE RAIN
27. OVER THE RAINBOW
28. HYOYEON DANCE
29. 1, 2 STEP [유리] FEAT.AMBER (f(x))
30. BEAUTIFUL GIRLS FEAT.유영진
31. 다시 만난 세계 (Into the new world)
32. 웃자 (BE HAPPY)
33. 힘 내! (WAY TO GO)
34. Gee
35. TOUCH THE SKY
36. 냉면 (차가운 니 얼굴) FEAT.소녀시대
37. 하하하송 (HaHaHaSong)
38. 멘트
39. COMPLETE
40. BABY BABY
41. Oh!
42. CLOSING MENT
BONUS TRACK
43. 카라멜 커피 (TALK TO ME)_제시카, 티파니
44. BARBIE GIRL [제시카] feat.희철 (SUPERJUNIOR)


아시아 NO.1 걸그룹, 소녀시대
GIRLS’ GENERATION The 1ST ASIA TOUR “Into the new world”

2 DVDs + 스페셜 컬러 포토북

-팬들의 뜨거운 요청으로 열린 2010년 2월 서울 올림픽 펜싱 경기장 앙코르 콘서트 실황 DVD
-열광적인 팬들의 환호성과 환상적인 공연 스테이지!
-관중을 압도하는 소녀시대의 퍼포먼스!
-아시아 최고의 무대에서 펼쳐지는 소녀시대만이 보여줄수 있는 매혹적인 공연


*168분 공연영상 수록!
*판타스틱한 무대 연출, 매혹적인 라이브 퍼포먼스!
*“소녀시대”, “BABY BABY”, “Oh!”, “Gee” 등의
*히트곡들로 꾸며지는 환상적인 무대 연출!
*“소원을 말해봐” REMIX버전 수록
*제시카와 티파니의 듀엣공연 <카라멜 커피>와
*제시카와 슈퍼주니어 김희철이 함께한 DVD독점 보너스 트랙으로 수록
*소녀시대 멤버들의 다양한 솔로 무대
-태연 ‘HUSH HUSH; HUSH HUSH’
-효연 ‘HYOYEON DANCE’ , 제시카 ‘BARBIE GIRL’
-유리 “1, 2 STEP”, - 윤아 “좋은 사람 있으면 소개시켜줘”
-서현 “SIXTEEN GOING ON SEVENTEEN”
-써니 “SUNNY”, - 티파니 “UMBRELLA”
-수영 “SANTA BABY”


와이드 스크린 영상과 현장감 넘치는 PCM 사운드로 현장감을 살린 콘서트 실황 DVD

DVD 독점 보너스 트랙
-제시카 & 티파니 <카라멜 커피>
-제시카 & 김희철
-콘서트 메이킹 필름
-콘서트 리허설, 대기실, 멤버들 개인 인터뷰 포함
-SPECIAL PHOTOBOOK
-공연실황을 담은 콘서트 스페셜 컬러 포토북


*러닝타임 : 총 218분 (D1: 89분, D2: 129분)
*Poste Size:

Credit: YesAsia

[y_nathz]

YAY!

[AyusakiFan]

I just preordered the version with the poster in tube! I'm so excited!

[dreamland2.0]

If only it had English subtiles ;_________;
Going to order this anyways!!

[Rogue]

Have you guys seen this one yet? They're SO ADORABLE in this XD
I love it when Sooyoung smacks Hyo with the pillow :')

Also can't stop listening to Bad Girl, made a drawing of Hyo and Sooyoung today at work XD

[AyusakiFan]

Originally Posted by dreamland2.0

If only it had English subtiles ;_________;
Going to order this anyways!!

To be honest, I'm quite disappointed that it won't be coming with English subtitles. I guess it's wrong for me to have set these expectations, but after getting spoiled with English subtitles and translations in releases such as the Paradise in Phuket book and DVD set, it's come to be something that I really look forward to. Hopefully, between the time of this preorder and the release date, they'll decide to add English subtitles. But either way, I'm grateful to finally be able to have this concert on DVD and I know I'm going to enjoy it regardless. Plus, I'm sure we'll get subs from Soshified!

Originally Posted by Rogue

Have you guys seen this one yet? They're SO ADROABLE in this XD
I love it when Sooyoung smacks Hyo with the pillow :')

Also can't stop listening to Bad Girl, made a drawing of Hyo and Sooyoung today at work XD

I love their PVs that are compilations of behind the scene shots of their music videos! It really allows you to see their personalities outside their performances! So cute! Anyways, I'd love to see your drawings! Please post them if you're willing to share.