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Old 4th October 2011, 05:26 PM
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^ i agree.
I felt like it fit very well and it was pretty well done. (Of course from the quality of the video it looks kinda cheap) I would like to see a full HD version before saying anything about the "effects"
But the video tells a wonderful story that fits the song very nicely.
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Old 4th October 2011, 06:13 PM
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so this video si specially made for ayu panchiko game? not badd!! infact its a great thing!
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Old 4th October 2011, 08:15 PM
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Lol at people thinking anyone actually dislikes it because the CGI looks cheap...I couldn't care less for the CGI budget as it IS a low budget production. For that the CGI is fine.
I dislike it because it looks like random scenes thrown together for an anime or game opening, is incredibly cheesy and not a single shot really struck me as great. I much prefer a "boring" video without story as long as it's either well-directed or features an interesting idea - or both.
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I'm really glad Ayu made this . It doesn't have to be perfect for it to be beautiful...

I laugh at the fact that people will ALWAYS have selfish and negative things to say, regardless of what she does (even her fans). Some people are never satisfied, even when Ayu's working herself to death to produce something nice for the fans. Ah well...I still love it .
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Old 4th October 2011, 11:02 PM
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Really, the whole thread of "people who like the video don't understand ~design" needs to stop. Give your fellow fans some credit; some people value the narrative--or maybe even just the narrative possibilities promised by Ayu stepping into the fantasy/action realm--over the quality of the effects themselves. And other people just like it without understanding or caring why. That's ok, too.
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Old 5th October 2011, 01:38 AM
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A music video doesn't need a million dollar budget to be enjoyed or appreciated. It was different, and I loved it. Ayu looked gorgeous and it had an actual story line. I'm completely satisfied with watching this then watching what could have been a diaster.
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Old 5th October 2011, 03:59 AM
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Lol at people thinking anyone actually dislikes it because the CGI looks cheap...I couldn't care less for the CGI budget as it IS a low budget production. For that the CGI is fine.
I dislike it because it looks like random scenes thrown together for an anime or game opening, is incredibly cheesy and not a single shot really struck me as great. I much prefer a "boring" video without story as long as it's either well-directed or features an interesting idea - or both.
it was made specially for PACHINKO.. thats why it looks like a games.

pachinko is a gaming console right?
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Old 5th October 2011, 05:18 AM
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^ It's the only way Japanese people can legally gamble in Japan. In shape it's more like a slot machine, but you actually turn a dial and control the constant movement of these little metal balls.

You have to try to get them to fall into a certain spot and once you find a good spot for the dial, you just hold it there while occasionally mashing some buttons, depending on the machine, to interact with the story line.

It's really loud and obnoxious haha.

So this video is like a "stage" that you can reach by hitting certain areas or reaching a certain amount of points or what have you.
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Old 5th October 2011, 08:28 AM
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Lol at people thinking anyone actually dislikes it because the CGI looks cheap...I couldn't care less for the CGI budget as it IS a low budget production. For that the CGI is fine.
I dislike it because it looks like random scenes thrown together for an anime or game opening, is incredibly cheesy and not a single shot really struck me as great. I much prefer a "boring" video without story as long as it's either well-directed or features an interesting idea - or both.
ah, for me, "cheap" and "cheesy" effects are (colloquially) one of the same. My bad.

I do find it funny that you say you dislike the video for being "random scenes thrown together" when that's the exact problem on which I thought "Duty" improved lol. Different strokes, I guess.

(Or a sign that I wasted my youth playing JRPGs, so this kind of nonsense makes total narrative sense to me. There's a scary thought.)
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Old 5th October 2011, 08:51 AM
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Thank you! Very interesting clip!
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Old 6th October 2011, 06:05 PM
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I said more than once, for a pachinko video it is VERY good. But that's all it is: a good pachinko video.

As a PV it is bad, which is why the "omg Ayu's last PVs should have been like this!!!" is ridiculous

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You realize that most people disliking this have liked most of her latest releases? I don't think a single person that expressed dislike in this thread is some kind of "hater" going around talking how this and that sucks. There are those on AHS but I don't think I've read such a posting in this thread.
I personally think Love Songs is by far Ayu's best album and FIVE is better than some of the albums many fans love so much. RnRC Tour and CDL1011 are amongst my favorite Ayu concerts, I think her vocals now are - together with maybe 2003 - the best she's ever had and can't wait to see PoM. This Duty video is the first thing Ayu did I really disliked in years - and I don't even dislike it. What really annoys me are the fans acting like it's more than just a pachinko video, like it's "oh so good".
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Old 6th October 2011, 07:17 PM
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^I see your point and it's all good to think and like whatever you want. And it's great to hear that you love the Love Songs album cuz I found myself quite so-so about it. :/ But I agree, R'n'RC are probably my fav Ayu concert ever!

But, in fact there are some people who actually think that even for a normal PV this is a good video. And they are allowed to think that. Now, I know that nobody didn't allow anyone not to think or like whatever they wanted to but I did notice some unnecessary comments (like "ppl who don't know that much about design are loving this, rolling eyes" e.t.c.) that kind of makes a fool out of the people who actually enjoyed this video. That is quite a typical master suppression technique and that is what people are reacting of here. People will always give out their oppinions in this forum, it's what this place is for, but there is no need to ridicule anyones oppinion.
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Old 6th October 2011, 08:07 PM
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Old 7th October 2011, 12:46 AM
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Watching the video surprised and confused the hell out of me.

I don't agree with this at all...
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Old 7th October 2011, 03:20 AM
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i don't think it's that great, with a song like Duty it deserves the best of the best.
but it's just a panchiko video so i don't really care and she looks good
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Old 7th October 2011, 04:05 AM
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I thought it was pure awesomeness. I really love the first part where she was singing to herself in the mirror. That look is so days esque era.
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Old 7th October 2011, 12:31 PM
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I said more than once, for a pachinko video it is VERY good. But that's all it is: a good pachinko video.

As a PV it is bad, which is why the "omg Ayu's last PVs should have been like this!!!" is ridiculous
Ah, well sadly that's just your opinion. This video is pretty good for story and PV. She should have more like this, instead of the artistes/visual videos that she always does
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Old 7th October 2011, 02:05 PM
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^Well, it's also your opinion that she should have more storyline videos...

Still, as much as I like those too, endless sorrow and alterna being some of her best, I didn't like this one plot-wise too... Even if it had amazing design and the best CGI on market, I wouldn't really like it...
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Old 7th October 2011, 04:52 PM
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Old 7th October 2011, 05:08 PM
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How completely random. I kind of liked it though!
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