～POWER of MUSIC～ 2011 A LIMITED EDITION setlists, photos, and etc. [IV]

[thatstacey]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

So I think Shu-ya DID flip someone off in the middle of Boys & Girls.

This is the stuff gifs were made to immortalize.

I thought that maybe he hadn't really flipped anyone off since there hasn't been anything about it in the press (at least that I've seen. Though I haven't really been looking). Watching it again, I can't imagine what else he could be doing.

[koumori]

"The finger" insult really isn't as insultive in Asia as it is in the West. It's more an act of defiance, and in the situation it merely looks like Shu-Ya was joking around with the audience that laughed~ I doubt they would of been insulted. Classic culture clash lol

[thatstacey]

Originally Posted by Koumori

"The finger" insult really isn't as insultive in Asia as it is in the West. It's more an act of defiance, and in the situation it merely looks like Shu-Ya was joking around with the audience that laughed~ I doubt they would of been insulted. Classic culture clash lol

Oh, thanks. That'd explain a lot.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by Koumori

"The finger" insult really isn't as insultive in Asia as it is in the West. It's more an act of defiance, and in the situation it merely looks like Shu-Ya was joking around with the audience that laughed~ I doubt they would of been insulted. Classic culture clash lol

I never understood why it's even that offensive in the US like...in Germany it's still relatively offensive but noone would blur it out of TV shows and stuff.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by Koumori

"The finger" insult really isn't as insultive in Asia as it is in the West. It's more an act of defiance, and in the situation it merely looks like Shu-Ya was joking around with the audience that laughed~ I doubt they would of been insulted. Classic culture clash lol

Even though it isn't as insulting in Asia/wherever else, I can't help but feel like Shu-ya is probably aware of Western culture enough to know what it means...

His body language during the whole thing is also not very 'joking' in nature, I think.

[the3ye]

Originally Posted by Koumori

"The finger" insult really isn't as insultive in Asia as it is in the West. It's more an act of defiance, and in the situation it merely looks like Shu-Ya was joking around with the audience that laughed~ I doubt they would of been insulted. Classic culture clash lol

I remember some sort of scandal in Japan when a japanese boxer (?) gave middle finger to his opponent and audience. So I guess it's still offensive.

[koumori]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Even though it isn't as insulting in Asia/wherever else, I can't help but feel like Shu-ya is probably aware of Western culture enough to know what it means...

His body language during the whole thing is also not very 'joking' in nature, I think.

The whole of Asia is aware of what it means in Western culture. But to be honest, I would have to disagree with the body language..but hey, we'll never know. I'd just rather think that Shu-Ya, or any of Ayu's staff, aren't stupid enough to put her reputation at risk or insult her fans that support them. I think Ayu would be more angry than anyone.

Well, if there's any scandal in the media we'll find out~ lol

Originally Posted by the3ye

I remember some sort of scandal in Japan when a japanese boxer (?) gave middle finger to his opponent and audience. So I guess it's still offensive.

In modern culture Japan it really isn't as offensive as it is here. So I guess it depends on the context? If you use it whilst being aggressive in general, then of course it's going to cause offence. I just can't imagine a dancer in the middle of a concert used to making mistakes getting that worked up/aggressive lol

Originally Posted by majrakun

It looked like he was looking at something, got distracted, tripped and then flipped someone off. He also looked like he was sorta laughing/smiling.

Yeah, that's how I saw it too.