New album in 2012 ~II~

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by spanishfan

When she first ask Leslie Kee to made the shoot of the new PV and cover for her, she did say "new single" and then she made a mini-album. So we can't know for sure what kind of product is gonna be released first. She can make almost a whole album but release first 1 or 2 songs while she complete the album (it seems she didn't made it full in London bcause it was only a month)

With that logic we could get a double album, which I wouldn't mind

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

Which is why you'd prefer anything over what Koda Kumi loves to do?

I do like some Koda stuff from time to time... Still, most of the time it seens like her career is all about quantity...

[pepper]

FIVE had an amazing quality of pv's, they were veeery diffrent from each other and the only aspect of "Ayu looking pretty" was used in good ways - Love songs is an amazing album but i truly liked only do it again video...

[AyumiAi]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

With that logic we could get a double album, which I wouldn't mind

what's a double album?

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by AyumiAi

what's a double album?

Album with 2 CDs.

[AyumiAi]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

Album with 2 CDs.

oh okay I figured I just wasnt sure XP

[isthisLOL?]

People say "BALLAD" was simple? o.0 Guys, watch the video again, ******** of sets, huge greenscreen stuff, probably her best CGI. It's not her most elaborate PV but faaaaaaar from simple. It was probably the least simple video on RnRC xD Microphone/Sexy Little Things MAY beat it but everything else was smaller scale.

[Mami-chan]

Ayu just updated TA and she wrote that in London she recorded 12 songs and 3 pvs.
I dont know if she's going to shoot other pvs in Japan but I really hope so, only 3 pvs sounds so poor for an Ayu album

[freedreamer]

12 songs?! omg...thats a lot for one trip. hopefully she will still work on a couple more in Japan???...make it a 15-16 track album Ayu!

and yea, hopefully 2-3 more PVs as well...like how Lady D and DLB were in Japan.

[Zeke.]

Originally Posted by freedreamer

12 songs?! omg...thats a lot for one trip. hopefully she will still work on a couple more in Japan???...make it a 15-16 track album Ayu!

and yea, hopefully 2-3 more PVs as well...like how Lady D and DLB were in Japan.

Well with 3 interludes it will be a 15 track album. I would be fine with 12 full songs. It's pretty much impossible to do more than that. And remember, this is not your average Ayu album here - being that there are no singles, we basically are getting DOUBLE the new material as we have ever gotten in the past.

I love this idea. I have often thought about one year ignoring all the singles just so that when an album is released, it would be all new material to me. But this way, I don't have to torture myself as much.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by Mami-chan

Ayu just updated TA and she wrote that in London she recorded 12 songs and 3 pvs.
I dont know if she's going to shoot other pvs in Japan but I really hope so, only 3 pvs sounds so poor for an Ayu album

I think that given the fact that we have no idea when this album will be released, it's possible we could get about 1-2 more PVs. Hopefully it's not just three~

[Zeke.]

Maybe she will release PVs for album tracks in upcoming singles? That way it's still a way of promoting the album, which had no prior singles leading up to the album release as promotion? Like my name's WOMEN in the STEP you single. I would be fine with that - the sooner we get this album, the better.

[RayJason]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

People say "BALLAD" was simple? o.0 Guys, watch the video again

And that is your view on BALLAD, not mine.

+ Why are you even bringing up the filming process (I assume you did that with the green screen statement)? I wasn't even talking about that, if you look at it that way then I'd say that all of ayu's PV's are very complicated. To be honest I don't think anyone who doesn't know a lot of the filming processes in general would be able to call the PV's simple.

[ayumisrael]

Worst case scenario, 3-4 interludes and 8-9 new songs which is still more than what we usually get with singles.

Although I would still hope for at least 2 more PVs but I guess it's ok with no singles.

If there will be 12 tracks than maybe there will be 6 PVs? Not always but usually they try to make the number of tracks on cd and dvd the sames so it would be 6 PVs and 6 making offs, doesn't have to happen though.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by RayJason

And that is your view on BALLAD, not mine.

+ Why are you even bringing up the filming process (I assume you did that with the green screen statement)? I wasn't even talking about that, if you look at it that way then I'd say that all of ayu's PV's are very complicated. To be honest I don't think anyone who doesn't know a lot of the filming processes in general would be able to call the PV's simple.

First of all: that last sentence doesn't make sentence to me, care to rephrase it? The double negative confuses me.
Secondly, you did not say what you were talking about, you said it was simple yet told a story, so I assumed you were not talking about the story.

It's not my view, it's the way it is. Not everything is an opinion.
Also, since you brought up the story, story wise there was more going on than in most of her videos as well and I doubt many people really understood it 100%. Most of Ayumi's videos don't have a story or only something VERY loose and up for so much interpretation we cannot even know if there was supposed to be a story to begin with(like Mirrorcle World, I could think of a million interpretations but in the end I think it's nothing more than Ayumi being chased around(by fame, fans, consciousness, reality, something completely random, make your pick, all fit with the video) and showcasing some of Paris).

I can't see how anyone could call BALLAD not simple compared to the rest of Ayumi's videos, on the visual, story, filming and technical levels there is more going on than in the majority of her videos. There is no way in which it is really simple and you have yet to bring up an aspect in which it supposedly is.

[RayJason]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

First of all: that last sentence doesn't make sentence to me, care to rephrase it? The double negative confuses me.
Secondly, you did not say what you were talking about, you said it was simple yet told a story, so I assumed you were not talking about the story.

It's not my view, it's the way it is. Not everything is an opinion.
Also, since you brought up the story, story wise there was more going on than in most of her videos as well and I doubt many people really understood it 100%. Most of Ayumi's videos don't have a story or only something VERY loose and up for so much interpretation we cannot even know if there was supposed to be a story to begin with(like Mirrorcle World, I could think of a million interpretations but in the end I think it's nothing more than Ayumi being chased around(by fame, fans, consciousness, reality, something completely random, make your pick, all fit with the video) and showcasing some of Paris).

I can't see how anyone could call BALLAD not simple compared to the rest of Ayumi's videos, on the visual, story, filming and technical levels there is more going on than in the majority of her videos. There is no way in which it is really simple and you have yet to bring up an aspect in which it supposedly is.

Uhm first of all check your own sentences.

Spoiler:

IN MY OWN OPINION: v

Simple: How the pv flows, it doesn't switch to a lot of different scenes what makes it easy for me to follow (unlike Mirrorcle World for example). NOT talking about green screens, cell shading, cables, explosives or whatever at all.
Story: How easy the story is to follow, and also how the lyrics are so well fit into the PV.

I just cannot imagine how you managed to render that comment as being oriented about green screens and such... And with that last sentence I was talking about how you 'judge BALLAD's pv on how the filming proces must have been (green screens, CGI)'. I do not have a single insight in that, and I do not think that any person who (like me) doesn't know about the filming processes concerning ayu's pv's can call her pv's simple. I haven't said that the process of filming BALLAD was easy, you make it seem like I did.

And I don't get your last sentence either? You say that 'you can't see how anyone could call BALLAD not simple compared to the rest of ayumi's videos' and then you say 'There is no way in which it is really simple'. <- maybe it's just me but I don't get it.

[koumori]

@isthisLOL?: Basically RayJason is saying that anyone who isn't interested in how the PV is made/recorded would say it was simple. Sure, they put a lot of effort into it, but it doesn't show.

My opinion on the BALLAD PV? I don't have one. It was that boring, I've forgotten all about it.

[!Lawi!]

I guess we can expect an annoucement any time now ? She will probably do as for RnRC, and shoot 2 or 3 more PVs in Japan, won't she ?

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by RayJason

Uhm first of all check your own sentences.

Spoiler:

IN MY OWN OPINION: v

Simple: How the pv flows, it doesn't switch to a lot of different scenes what makes it easy for me to follow (unlike Mirrorcle World for example). NOT talking about green screens, cell shading, cables, explosives or whatever at all.
Story: How easy the story is to follow, and also how the lyrics are so well fit into the PV.

I just cannot imagine how you managed to render that comment as being oriented about green screens and such... And with that last sentence I was talking about how you 'judge BALLAD's pv on how the filming proces must have been (green screens, CGI)'. I do not have a single insight in that, and I do not think that any person who (like me) doesn't know about the filming processes concerning ayu's pv's can call her pv's simple. I haven't said that the process of filming BALLAD was easy, you make it seem like I did.

And I don't get your last sentence either? You say that 'you can't see how anyone could call BALLAD not simple compared to the rest of ayumi's videos' and then you say 'There is no way in which it is really simple'. <- maybe it's just me but I don't get it.

You really love to feel high and mighty don't you? But you don't even understand the essence of my post, I was only talking about technical aspects as ONE OF SEVERAL and I clearly stated that more than once.
And I was asking you to rephrase because English is not my first language and double negatives in it sometimes confuse me. No need to get cocky when I was just asking you for some help. Lady Gaga called, she wants her high horse back.
If there are mistakes in my sentences please point me to exactly where they are instead of bolding complete sentences(that is completely useless and just makes you seem like a *****), since that won't help me in finding the mistakes and only makes you more annoying than you already are. I told you, English is not my first language, I'm currently learning it, so if there are any mistakes please tell me what they are. (And I think it's obvious that the "sentence" in my first sentence was a typo and supposed to be "sense", but you probably wanted to lay that out as more than what it is )

You called the story simple, but if you actually look at it there is much more going on than in most of her videos. There are two(in some interpretations: 3) storylines simultanously and believe me, many people do not understand the videos story or needed to watch it more than once to understand it. If that is not what makes a story complicated then I don't know what is. Have you seen the discussions about the video on AHS when it was released? There were many completely DIFFERENT interpretations, if it was simple everybody would see it as the same. And you compare it to a video that possible doesn't even HAVE a story(Mirrorcle World) - don't you think that's a bad comparison? You can follow the video better than a video that consists mostly of random fashion shoots cut together, erm yeah...sure, maybe you just search too hard for meaning in some of the scenes in Mirrorcle World.

My comment was not oriented about "green screens and such", it was a tiny aspect. I was not judging the video on the filming process, I was judging it's simplicity on many aspects including the filming process, but also including story, image composition, cut...because you didn't say "the story is simple", you said "the video is simple", that includes more than just the story. And I disagree that the story is simple. If BALLAD is simple...what is BLUE BIRD or Sunrise to you? She only has a handful videos that have more complex stories and storytelling.

Originally Posted by Koumori

@isthisLOL?: Basically RayJason is saying that anyone who isn't interested in how the PV is made/recorded would say it was simple. Sure, they put a lot of effort into it, but it doesn't show.

My opinion on the BALLAD PV? I don't have one. It was that boring, I've forgotten all about it.

Thank you But that's not what I was talking about. Sure that was one part, but one of many, including the story. And right now I'm only replying to him/her cause I hate his/her attitude he/she displayed on this forum MANY times, usually before or after he/she has been proven wrong about something or after saying something completely idiotic.

[RayJason]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

You really love to feel high and mighty don't you? But you don't even understand the essence of my post, I was only talking about technical aspects as ONE OF SEVERAL and I clearly stated that more than once.
And I was asking you to rephrase because English is not my first language and double negatives in it sometimes confuse me. No need to get cocky when I was just asking you for some help. Lady Gaga called, she wants her high horse back.
If there are mistakes in my sentences please point me to exactly where they are instead of bolding complete sentences(that is completely useless and just makes you seem like a *****), since that won't help me in finding the mistakes and only makes you more annoying than you already are. I told you, English is not my first language, I'm currently learning it, so if there are any mistakes please tell me what they are. (And I think it's obvious that the "sentence" in my first sentence was a typo and supposed to be "sense", but you probably wanted to lay that out as more than what it is )

You called the story simple, but if you actually look at it there is much more going on than in most of her videos. There are two(in some interpretations: 3) storylines simultanously and believe me, many people do not understand the videos story or needed to watch it more than once to understand it. If that is not what makes a story complicated then I don't know what is. Have you seen the discussions about the video on AHS when it was released? There were many completely DIFFERENT interpretations, if it was simple everybody would see it as the same. And you compare it to a video that possible doesn't even HAVE a story(Mirrorcle World) - don't you think that's a bad comparison? You can follow the video better than a video that consists mostly of random fashion shoots cut together, erm yeah...sure, maybe you just search too hard for meaning in some of the scenes in Mirrorcle World.

My comment was not oriented about "green screens and such", it was a tiny aspect. I was not judging the video on the filming process, I was judging it's simplicity on many aspects including the filming process, but also including story, image composition, cut...because you didn't say "the story is simple", you said "the video is simple", that includes more than just the story. And I disagree that the story is simple. If BALLAD is simple...what is BLUE BIRD or Sunrise to you? She only has a handful videos that have more complex stories and storytelling.

Whenever we get in a discussion again, I'll just quote this. How childish.

edit; To be to grown up in this discussion;

So, you disagree with me finding the story simple and finding the flow of the pv simple? Okay fine MOVE ON. I'm not going to change my point of view on BALLAD because you are talking about filming and such while I was talking about the flow of the PV and the story.

You haven't proven me wrong at all! I don't know what you are thinking but I never said that the process of filming is simple at all, I never talked about that in the first post either. I really don't give a **** about it, so I really don't know where your ignorance comes from to throw in the 'green screens and such' to fight of my statement, IN WHICH I said that the pv was simple and the story followable. ah never mind I'm not continuing this

edit2; And another thing, I NEVER said ANYTHING about Mirrorcle World's story, I was talking about the PV.