Daft Punk sample in Taskebab.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I think it's different if you sample the sound which is exactly what Daft Punk does sometimes without crediting the originals at times.

tasuku seems like he does this a LOT since melodies from his last 3 task interludes have been found in other songs, and I don't think he would plagiarize others that many times unless he thinks he can get away with it for whatever reason.

I just feel there's a difference between "sampling" and pretty much taking an idea and making it the very essence of your work.

I know this kind of thing happens all the time and I'm not saying taskebab is bad. I actually find it to be an enjoyable interlude. But the fact the instrumental and arrangement are practically identical bothers me a little bit. But that's just me

[YUKARI]

Originally Posted by Jason

I just feel there's a difference between "sampling" and pretty much taking an idea and making it the very essence of your work.

I know this kind of thing happens all the time and I'm not saying taskebab is bad. I actually find it to be an enjoyable interlude. But the fact the instrumental and arrangement are practically identical bothers me a little bit. But that's just me

+1

I feel the same too

[SummonerXI]

Originally Posted by Jason

I just feel there's a difference between "sampling" and pretty much taking an idea and making it the very essence of your work.

I know this kind of thing happens all the time and I'm not saying taskebab is bad. I actually find it to be an enjoyable interlude. But the fact the instrumental and arrangement are practically identical bothers me a little bit. But that's just me

If it bothers you, fine, but that doesn't make it plagiarism. What they did in taskebab was take a guitar rift from a song and worked it into a new composition. I don't see how that's plagiarism. If taskebab was an outright copy of Aerodynamic, then yeah, that would be plagiarism. What Ayu did was take a sample and gave it a fresh new sound.

Especially when Daft Punk apparently does the same thing... So if it's not okay for Ayu to do it, it's not okay for Daft Punk to do it either.

Also, Protip: If you play them over each other, they sound different.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by SummonerXI

If it bothers you, fine, but that doesn't make it plagiarism. What they did in taskebab was take a guitar rift from a song and worked it into a new composition. I don't see how that's plagiarism. If taskebab was an outright copy of Aerodynamic, then yeah, that would be plagiarism. What Ayu did was take a sample and gave it a fresh new sound.

Especially when Daft Punk apparently does the same thing... So if it's not okay for Ayu to do it, it's not okay for Daft Punk to do it either.

Also, Protip: If you play them over each other, they sound different.

The fact it bothers me isn't the reason I think it's plagiarism

What Daft Punk usually do is just sampling. What tasaku did was compose the exact same melody and arrangement, painted around it with nice guitar riffs and altered it towards the end. I don't think it matters if that particular part of the interlude lasts less then a minute or not; that's still plagiarism, in my opinion.

[SummonerXI]

Originally Posted by Jason

The fact it bothers me isn't the reason I think it's plagiarism

What Daft Punk usually do is just sampling. What tasaku did was compose the exact same melody and arrangement, painted around it with nice guitar riffs and altered it towards the end. I don't think it matters if that particular part of the interlude lasts less then a minute or not; that's still plagiarism, in my opinion.

But it doesn't really sound the same. Tasuku's version has a different variation. The cords in Tasuku's version sound like they're falling while the cords in Daft Punk's version are climbing. Why the same general idea was used where the guitar rift gradually climbs, the notes and cords are still used in different combinations. That's not plagiarism.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by SummonerXI

But it doesn't really sound the same. Tasuku's version has a different variation. The cords in Tasuku's version sound like they're falling while the cords in Daft Punk's version are climbing. Why the same general idea was used where the guitar rift gradually climbs, the notes and cords are still used in different combinations. That's not plagiarism.

You're definitely a good debater *shakes your hand*

But the way I see your view is like if I just decided to copy a famous painting, change the colour scheme a little and rearrange a few bits of it here and there. I don't know... That's the way I see it, anyway.

I don't mind artists or, in this instance, composers showing us who influenced their work or anything if it's in a more subtle manner. But, to me, Tasaku didn't just show us who influenced him, he just repainted and played with something another artist painted before him.