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Old 29th June 2012, 04:21 PM
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do you guys want her to flop? whats up with the logic of people who want BEST album without hits. please gtfo with your flop ideas
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Old 29th June 2012, 04:29 PM
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err shall we wait and see first,this album isnt even released yet,chill guys
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Old 29th June 2012, 04:45 PM
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I think casual fans would have preferred a single CD release instead of a double CD one... She really should have just chosen the best summer songs. I don't think casual listeners like being forced to buy 2 CDs, unless it's A Best 3
I think I agree on that, really. 1CD probably isn't much for BEST from avex perspective?

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I hate that oh you don't have to buy it crap.
No ****** I don't like that ayu is releasing an a best but oh well.
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Excuse the language, but they really are just taking the piss with this release. One song and material that's already been released twice? No thanks. Happening Here and theme of a-nation do not make up for it. A cheap digital single (and a cover) and a CD I'm sure is dirt cheap second hand.
I think I might have bought it maybe for a special thing like special summer photobook or merchandise that comes with it

I don't know wtf with her marketing team. I mean, they're like not willing to work and pulling some creative ideas?

alright, I would have even bought this album at least if it had some thing cool about it even if it's just the design of the box

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Old 29th June 2012, 04:53 PM
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People complain because they are not satisfied, not because they like to complain. I wouldn't even call it complain, just people who are stating their opinions. You guys should respect that instead of playing the "****ing complainers all over AHS / nobody is forcing you to buy" card. IMO It's WAY too early for her to release another BEST album. And you should also stop provoking the Timmy hate (you probably didn't mean to do that though otherwise it'd be really pathetic).
Please take your own advise and realize im stating my own opinion. People are complaining to complain. If you dont like it then you dont have to state all the reasons over and over and over.
Its not to early to release a best... Its been five years... its time for a new best, this isn't even a best, this is a summer mix with a new song.
And my stating what I think about timmy making a song is not provoking, most people on here dont like him. I was stating yet again my OWN opinion.
TImmy said he was working on a song, so it makes me think that timmy wrote this song.
So it will make many people on here mad.
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Old 29th June 2012, 05:19 PM
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I have no interest in this. I think the fact that people voted for the songs is supposed to create "hype" but I think that her marketing team is really just super lazy and uninspired in general. Gone are the days when her crying face was everywhere you look or she'd re-sing the album's songs. Or maybe it's all her idea; in that case she is the one who is uninspired. And to those that say 'but she doesn't care about sales/#1 album!' the release of this album strongly indicates that she does.

I think she still releases quality music, but nowadays that's not enough to guarantee a good reception.
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Old 29th June 2012, 05:21 PM
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It would be so nice if they did a A WINTER BEST too!!

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Old 29th June 2012, 05:26 PM
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I have no interest in this. I think the fact that people voted for the songs is supposed to create "hype" but I think that her marketing team is really just super lazy and uninspired in general. Gone are the days when her crying face was everywhere you look or she'd re-sing the album's songs. Or maybe it's all her idea; in that case she is the one who is uninspired. And to those that say 'but she doesn't care about sales/#1 album!' the release of this album strongly indicates that she does.
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Old 29th June 2012, 05:28 PM
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She may have said she doesn't care about number 1 album(s) [did she really say that?], but I think she also said she still wishes to someday sell 1 million units. In all honesty, it's a hard reality to accept when Namie is older than Ayu and been around longer and she's having a second peak. Put yourself in Ayu's shoes - anyone would feel a little down.
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Old 29th June 2012, 05:43 PM
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These are the songs that are NOT IN OTHER BEST albums and I'm sure that some fans had actually wanted a BEST album as it's been close to 5yrs since A BEST 2 (though it wasnt really an A BEST 3... Hopefully they wun release 1 next year...)
A COMPLETE shouldnt be counted as BEST album as it's just the songs from her singles.

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So did you bought A BEST, A BEST 2 Black and White?
Why can't we count A COMPLETE? It sold extremely well, obviously appealing both to the casual market and hard core fans. It's still a compilation album, even if it doesn't have "best" in the title.

And yes, I own all 3. How is that relevant to me disliking this release and thinking it's completely about money making?

It's like I said, my problem with this release is simply that Avex are doing it because they can make more money & sales with a summer album than a new single. It's disgusting.
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Old 29th June 2012, 05:56 PM
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Zeke, that's a good point, and many would debate whether Namie's peak is due to a great marketing team that got her all the right tie-ins. Starting with Baby don't cry she had a slew of drama and commercial tie-ins. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the tie-ins were the only reason but they do make a huge impact. What did Ayu have other than ToX? Alot of drama with fans over her collaborations and Timmy.

Here is what I'm saying; Ayu wants sales, but it doesn't seem like anyone is putting any extra effort into marketing her; there were some mediocre videos, laughable covers, half-assed releases (like this one). Should she try to please everyone? No and that is impossible, however, I think her confidence has taken a serious hit and her marketing team should be working harder to help her regain it.
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Old 29th June 2012, 06:10 PM
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Please take your own advise and realize im stating my own opinion. People are complaining to complain. If you dont like it then you dont have to state all the reasons over and over and over.
Its not to early to release a best... Its been five years... its time for a new best, this isn't even a best, this is a summer mix with a new song.
And my stating what I think about timmy making a song is not provoking, most people on here dont like him. I was stating yet again my OWN opinion.
TImmy said he was working on a song, so it makes me think that timmy wrote this song.
So it will make many people on here mad.
There is absolutely no need for me to follow my own advice, mind you. And nobody in this thread states their reason OVER and OVER and OVER again, maybe you can list the persons who did that? (No you can't because no single person in this thread has been complaining, just merely stating their opinions).

And it's too early to release a BEST if you ask me, even when it has been 5 years. And this album IS a BEST (/compilation) album, no matter how you want to call it. Just because she doesn't fill the album with her singles, doesn't automatically mean that this is just a 'summer mix' album or whatever... (even the title says 『A SUMMER BEST』 ....)
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Old 29th June 2012, 06:11 PM
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and also...no album promotion on TV e.g. live performance on TV, musci station, cdtv and stuffs....she should just fired her whole team and get a new one~
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Old 29th June 2012, 06:14 PM
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There is absolutely no need for me to follow my own advice, mind you. And nobody in this thread states their reason OVER and OVER and OVER again, maybe you can list the persons who did that? (No you can't because no single person in this thread has been complaining, just merely stating their opinions).

And it's too early to release a BEST if you ask me, even when it has been 5 years. And this album IS a BEST (/compilation) album, no matter how you want to call it. Just because she doesn't fill the album with her singles, doesn't automatically mean that this is just a 'summer mix' album or whatever... (even the title says 『A SUMMER BEST』 ....)
if it is TOO EARLY for her to release a best album, then when should she release them????? every 10 years of her anniversary?
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Old 29th June 2012, 06:17 PM
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Or avex wants her to maintain her 'number one album each year' streak..
We had Party Queen three months ago. I doubt a Best album will reach #1 if that didn't..right? I'm really not sure how fond the public will be of another Best. I guess we'll see.

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Zeke, that's a good point, and many would debate whether Namie's peak is due to a great marketing team that got her all the right tie-ins. Starting with Baby don't cry she had a slew of drama and commercial tie-ins. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the tie-ins were the only reason but they do make a huge impact. What did Ayu have other than ToX? Alot of drama with fans over her collaborations and Timmy.

Here is what I'm saying; Ayu wants sales, but it doesn't seem like anyone is putting any extra effort into marketing her; there were some mediocre videos, laughable covers, half-assed releases (like this one). Should she try to please everyone? No and that is impossible, however, I think her confidence has taken a serious hit and her marketing team should be working harder to help her regain it.
Yes I really do think Namie had a killer marketing strategy when she re-invented her self in a way.
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Old 29th June 2012, 06:30 PM
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if it is TOO EARLY for her to release a best album, then when should she release them????? every 10 years of her anniversary?
When she has enough (new) content to fill a BEST album instead of recycling songs that have been used on multiple BEST albums and Regular albums. The only thing that makes me want to buy this is because of the (unseen) LIVE performances.

A better question is: Why should she fire her whole team and get a new one? Explain that to me you super smart tough girl!
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Old 29th June 2012, 06:32 PM
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People in general here miss and ignore that "theme of a-nation'03" has never been released in album but in single [&] only, and Happening Here has never been released in album but in digital single only. So, when this BEST album has couple ideas beside new song You & Me and its music video.
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Old 29th June 2012, 08:38 PM
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the supposedly 'new' content doesn't really amaze or excite me to the extent of willing to buy it, somehow
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Old 29th June 2012, 08:47 PM
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Look, you may not want to buy this album but I don't think that's a reason to go Ayu-bashing. I'm not talking about the people who are expressing their disappointment over this release, because that's fine-- I'm talking about the people who are almost on the verge of hoping it will fail.

Let's try to play nice, guys!
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Old 29th June 2012, 09:50 PM
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Yes I really do think Namie had a killer marketing strategy when she re-invented her self in a way.
I totally agree. Good / modern / catchy songs of course play an essential part of that strategy, but namie has had a great long term strategy for a long time that comprises all the key elements for being successful as a music artist in Japan. Some on jpm even commented on how prior to uncontrolled she tried to appear more cute as to appeal more a to a male demographic since most of her fans a female. Ayu used to have a pretty good and creative marketing team but not anymore (the release of the song RAINBOW on an album instead of as a single is one example).
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