[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~Party Queen~ III

[KuuXAyu-fan]

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

I kinda feel that ASB will flop. Like, 40,000k in its first week and 70,000k lifetime. Not as hard as Beach Mix though...
There are some artists who dream of such numbers, however.

Beach Mix is only a remix album while ASB is a compilation album. There really is no comparison.

[primavera♥]

Originally Posted by brener

i wish it could chart for more 2 weeks, so it would have the same chartlife as 'Love songs' :\ lets hope!

Mhmm...that would be nice

[Delicious n Bold]

Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan

Beach Mix is only a remix album while ASB is a compilation album. There really is no comparison.

They're still similar. Both summer concepts with bad covers and a so-so new song. But, I know that remix albums don't sell as well as regular albums.
I still think both albums will do horrid, Koda's doing even worse than Driving Hit's 4.

[adantatu2]

^
i think the same, lol.

[primavera♥]

I really don't think it's necessary to compare beach mix with ASB. They really are two different types of releases. And this thread is about neither of those albums anyway, though I understand there isn't much to talk about.

Anyway, I don't think this new ayu album can really sell sooo badly for it's type. I mean, Party Queen says something about her sale decline. But I treat this ASB differently. We'll see I guess

In the meantime, Party Queen is still hanging on

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

They're still similar. Both summer concepts with bad covers and a so-so new song. But, I know that remix albums don't sell as well as regular albums.
I still think both albums will do horrid, Koda's doing even worse than Driving Hit's 4.

This kinda made me laugh. Just because you think they're similar and that both the releases have horrible covers and one so-so new song doesn't mean they are in fact similar.

The facts are Beach mix is a remix album and A SUMMER BEST is BEST OF album filled with some of Ayu's most popular tracks in their original form ^^ I can't really see it selling the same as Beach Mix and I am pretty sure it'll do better than the previous ayu mix release. Though if it fails to do that avex should really be worried. Still your logic just fails to make any sense to me

[KuuXAyu-fan]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

This kinda made me laugh. Just because you think they're similar and that both the releases have horrible covers and one so-so new song doesn't mean they are in fact similar.

The facts are Beach mix is a remix album and A SUMMER BEST is BEST OF album filled with some of Ayu's most popular tracks in their original form ^^ I can't really see it selling the same as Beach Mix and I am pretty sure it'll do better than the previous ayu mix release. Though if it fails to do that avex should really be worried. Still your logic just fails to make any sense to me

This post basically sums up what I think lol

[TeamAyu2004]

^ personally I think you can can compare them since they are both the same type of music and same type of artist. Just because ones a remix and ones a compilation doesn;t make one better over the other... Yes they are different albums, but so are Party Queen and Love Songs... people compare those all the time.
I don't think I would compare them sales wise because beach hits is gonna totally flop, although it might do better because of the new song.... it's just because it is a remix album, and Koda's remix albums don't usually do so well.

[KuuXAyu-fan]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

^ personally I think you can can compare them since they are both the same type of music and same type of artist. Just because ones a remix and ones a compilation doesn;t make one better over the other... Yes they are different albums, but so are Party Queen and Love Songs... people compare those all the time.
I don't think I would compare them sales wise because beach hits is gonna totally flop, although it might do better because of the new song.... it's just because it is a remix album, and Koda's remix albums don't usually do so well.

Remix albums in general for the most part don't usually do so well. Ayu's last batch of remix albums sold around 15-20k but for a remix album thats not bad at all.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

^ personally I think you can can compare them since they are both the same type of music and same type of artist.

But they aren't. Those REMIXES are REMIXES and don't really fall into pop category. And anyone who's following Oricon charts knows the remix albums do a lot worse than BEST OFs.

[KuuXAyu-fan]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

But they aren't. Those REMIXES are REMIXES and don't really fall into pop category. And anyone who's following Oricon charts knows the remix albums do a lot worse than BEST OFs.

Exactly what I'm trying to say. It'd be like me comparing Best Third Universe vs Ayu-mi-x 7 (any one of them).

[njanjayrp]

^ precisely.

[CHE.R.RY]

I wouldn't be surprised if ASB flops ...I mean look at the sales of PQ. These are record low for Ayu.

[ayumisrael]

No, it's a normal decline for ayu. Party Queen's sales got down but in a normal decline.

[jbrat2219]

I don't think ASB will flop. Best albums tend to do pretty well, right?

[jang-kun]

I'm expecting at least a curve up on Ayu's sales with this release. Who knows? It might lead to her most awaited second peak.

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

But they aren't. Those REMIXES are REMIXES and don't really fall into pop category. And anyone who's following Oricon charts knows the remix albums do a lot worse than BEST OFs.

What I was trying to say was that both women do the same type of music. So they can be compared.
I also know that one is a remix and the other is a best, so by numbers one shouldnt compare.

[Delicious n Bold]

I guess that comparing how both ASB and BM will do against each other IS a bad idea.
Regardless of what people say, Koda is gonna flop and Ayu is just might flop. I don't really see a No 1 on the Oricon. At least they're both not releasing on the 15th, otherwise their fates would have been sealed and their wigs would have been snatched by AKB48.

And as for both albums, they both share:
1. Trashy covers.
2. A new so-so song.
3. A summer concept.

Ayu's contains un-remixed songs (save for a You & Me remix which people say is on there), while Koda's contains all remixed songs (save for Whatchu Waitin' On). In fact, in this respect, the albums are complete opposites of each other.

[KuuXAyu-fan]

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

I guess that comparing how both ASB and BM will do against each other IS a bad idea.
Regardless of what people say, Koda is gonna flop and Ayu is just might flop. I don't really see a No 1 on the Oricon. At least they're both not releasing on the 15th, otherwise their fates would have been sealed and their wigs would have been snatched by AKB48.

But you do realize Kuu flopping with a remix album is perfectly normal? Ayu is releasing a GH album and if that flops it's certainly something to be worried over.

[Delicious n Bold]

^ It may be something normal, but NOT something she deserves, especially when the remixes on this album are pretty good.