[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~A SUMMER BEST~

[TeamAyu2004]

^ that was just by oricon.
You have to also count the fact that they dont count all sales.
Accounting for everything, bringing in Avex's numbers and oricon I would think it's somewhere in-between.
She hit the 50 million mark years ago.
If you count her over sea's sales she hit that mark even quicker.

and with the single discussion.
As long as you have the few that are successful, then you are going to have others that try it.
Singles are here to stay and are amazing cheap/free way to promote.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

^ that was just by oricon.
You have to also count the fact that they dont count all sales.
Accounting for everything, bringing in Avex's numbers and oricon I would think it's somewhere in-between.
She hit the 50 million mark years ago.
If you count her over sea's sales she hit that mark even quicker.

Avex counts shipment numbers, Oricon counts final consumer sales... Selling 50million copies to stores is far different from selling 50million copies to the listener.

Originally Posted by Diego-kun

If we think of Namie and Seiko they gained popularity thanks to singles (60s70s80s and Anata ni Aitakute ~Missing You~) so singles are needed in Japan if you wanna be popular again.

Ayu needs to go back to what she used to do back in 2005-2006 and stop releasing albums with no promotion and stupid best albums with the same songs over and over again...

Promotional tracks such as How beautiful you are, Love Songs or Microphone are the same as singles, they just don't get physical releases... As Namie and Utada proved again and again, you don't need a physical single to have a hit.

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Avex counts shipment numbers, Oricon counts final consumer sales... Selling 50million copies to stores is far different from selling 50million copies to the listener.

this is true, but the ones ship could be sold.
And it still doesnt change the fact that Oricon still doesnt count all of the sales.

Sales at concerts are counted at a 1/3 corrected?
Plus, Oricon doesnt count ALL sales throughout Japan. And from that we dont even know what percentage of Japan Oricon counts.
It could 60%, 95%, or even just in major cities.

Thats why i say a number between what has been shipped and what Oricon has counted would be a great number.
Also for the fact that digital sales are not included.
The fact remains, ayumi has passed the 50 million album sales a LONG time ago.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

this is true, but the ones ship could be sold.
And it still doesnt change the fact that Oricon still doesnt count all of the sales.

Sales at concerts are counted at a 1/3 corrected?
Plus, Oricon doesnt count ALL sales throughout Japan. And from that we dont even know what percentage of Japan Oricon counts.
It could 60%, 95%, or even just in major cities.

Thats why i say a number between what has been shipped and what Oricon has counted would be a great number.
Also for the fact that digital sales are not included.
The fact remains, ayumi has passed the 50 million album sales a LONG time ago.

Still, Oricon numbers are considered to be the official ones... Without it, she can sold 100million copies, there will be no actual proof of it