COUNTDOWN LIVE 2012-2013 A ~WAKE UP~ information thread

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan

Excuse me, but this is the whole point of it, also in Japan: to make women appear immature and naive.

you are completely ignoring everything that everyone else and myself have said.
IT'S NOT CONSIDER THAT.
they do it because its cute. it has nothing to do with making a woman stupid, which is what you are saying. Women act cute because they are stupid and this is not the case.
they act like that because its deemed cute.
Japan is just all about the cuteness.
Look at the men... if you asked the average american man (one that doesn't know anything about the culture) about japanese men looking cute,, they would say he was gay and that is not the case.

Also, look up the police mascot for japan


that is cute.
thats just one example of the cuteness in the culture. Look up the video of the male politician doing the dance from the AKB song.. this is a culture that loves being cute.
its the same with men/women/boys/girls/older people.
there is no hidden agenda to bring women down, its in the culture.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

you are completely ignoring everything that everyone else and myself have said.
IT'S NOT CONSIDER THAT.
they do it because its cute. it has nothing to do with making a woman stupid, which is what you are saying. Women act cute because they are stupid and this is not the case.
they act like that because its deemed cute.
Japan is just all about the cuteness.
Look at the men... if you asked the average american man (one that doesn't know anything about the culture) about japanese men looking cute,, they would say he was gay and that is not the case.

Also, look up the police mascot for japan


that is cute.
thats just one example of the cuteness in the culture. Look up the video of the male politician doing the dance from the AKB song.. this is a culture that loves being cute.
its the same with men/women/boys/girls/older people.
there is no hidden agenda to bring women down, its in the culture.

You have way too much reading problems, damn!

Chibi-chan is not saying japanese women act cute because they are stupid or immature, she never said it. Chibi-chan is saying japanese women act cute to look stupid and immature. And they do that because men find it sexy. And japanese men find it sexy because it puts girls on a submissive position.

And this is far from being something exclusive to japanese culture or to the East... Britney Spears' peak was 100% based on the fetish of being a submissive school girl, and a lot of famous celebrities and sex-symbols like Marylin Monroe, 90s Mariah Carey, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus (and all the other Disney princesses) Carly Rae Japsen, etc, etc, etc use a innocente/childish/cute image to appeal to the public as submissive girls.

But I don't really think Ayu is strong enough to fight this all by heself, and I believe she perverts this idea a lot, so, I like it when she uses it most of the times.

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

You have way too much reading problems, damn!

Chibi-chan is not saying japanese women act cute because they are stupid or immature, she never said it. Chibi-chan is saying japanese women act cute to look stupid and immature. And they do that because men find it sexy. And japanese men find it sexy because it puts girls on a submissive position.

And this is far from being something exclusive to japanese culture or to the East... Britney Spears' peak was 100% based on the fetish of being a submissive school girl, and a lot of famous celebrities and sex-symbols like Marylin Monroe, 90s Mariah Carey, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus (and all the other Disney princesses) Carly Rae Japsen, etc, etc, etc use a innocente/childish/cute image to appeal to the public as submissive girls.

But I don't really think Ayu is strong enough to fight this all by heself, and I believe she perverts this idea a lot, so, I like it when she uses it most of the times.

Thanks! You're exactly summing up what I wanted to say.

[douggn]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

you are completely ignoring everything that everyone else and myself have said.
IT'S NOT CONSIDER THAT.
they do it because its cute. it has nothing to do with making a woman stupid, which is what you are saying. Women act cute because they are stupid and this is not the case.
they act like that because its deemed cute.
Japan is just all about the cuteness.
Look at the men... if you asked the average american man (one that doesn't know anything about the culture) about japanese men looking cute,, they would say he was gay and that is not the case.

Also, look up the police mascot for japan


that is cute.
thats just one example of the cuteness in the culture. Look up the video of the male politician doing the dance from the AKB song.. this is a culture that loves being cute.
its the same with men/women/boys/girls/older people.
there is no hidden agenda to bring women down, its in the culture.

I slightly agree. If ayu is the only thing you like from Japan then you wont understand the culture. It prude to judge how a nation of people act in society from the eyes of another, yet alone just because its seen as different in a western view