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Old 28th November 2013, 03:23 AM
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^I actually really like that 60s throwback animation. It's hard for me to say it looks cheap cause like, this is how its supposed to look lol
Well the 50's 60's animation was indeed kinda cheap, but because of that artists managed to make a little revolution in the industry, trying to do new things with the small budgets they had, trying something different and new. This was a great period as regards animation/design.

I'm myself fond of that era and you can trust me, the animation used for the PV is really (really) cheap haha! But it was obviously done to look this way. This can be the only reason.
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Interesting.

Well maybe they went for this look just so it stays funny...or something lol
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I really think people need to stop bringing up the Sunrise/Sunset covers.

We don't need to be reminded of how bad they are, and we don't need to be reminded of who thinks they're good. Cause. :/
Sorry, but its a forum and its not against the rules, so I'm gonna bring up what I want to. Actually, I'm not even sorry.
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I don't see why you would be lol
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Old 28th November 2013, 03:34 AM
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From what I'm reading on mixi, some Japanese fans don't like it, some do. But most find it interesting.
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Old 28th November 2013, 03:36 AM
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I hope they at least think it's funny or cute. That's the reaction I saw outside of the usual "oh my god Ayu what are you doing" posts.
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Old 28th November 2013, 03:37 AM
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Sorry, but its a forum and its not against the rules, so I'm gonna bring up what I want to. Actually, I'm not even sorry.

my way of thinking too, how dull wouldn't this forum be if we had to praise everything ayu did?
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Old 28th November 2013, 03:42 AM
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my way of thinking too, how dull wouldn't this forum be if we had to praise everything ayu did?
I don't think it'd be dull, but it would certainly be a bit closer to what I usually experience at fan forums. Lately, I've felt like when it comes to Ayu's new works and this forum, this place is constant criticism without any potential solutions with very few positive voices.

Like... how else could she have done this PV? What could she have done differently with the arrangement of Feel the love? Though there are things that are reasonable and those that are not, haha.
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I hope they at least think it's funny or cute. That's the reaction I saw outside of the usual "oh my god Ayu what are you doing" posts.
I think the biggest complaint I saw was how ero-kawaii ayu's dress was. They said she's been showing her boobs too much xD
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Old 28th November 2013, 03:44 AM
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Yeah, they were just trying to run a marathon or whatever too, haha.



Yeah, Sunrise/Sunset were not HORRIBLE, but I'd have preferred if at least her face wasn't so manipulated in post since we know that she looked great in that shoot she did for the calendar so wtf happened with the Sunrise photos? They should have had her in that long dress instead of the bikini/bra-combo probably too. Stylist, why you do this?

Also here's the pink thing.


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i think that the fat girl wants to have an ideal man like james, so she works hard to be thin and pretty, so that man like james could accept her, but then she realizes, is that all worth it? so she decides to just be herself, becoming pretty on her own, then she accidentally meets james at the park, from my point of view, james doesn't even look at the back, at her.. he just feels like someone calling him, at the same time, the fat girl accidentally bumps into another man who brings balloons who probably is the man who likes fat girl, therefore the balloons flow away which mean she's free from all the pressure for becoming pretty and she finally meets the guy who can accept her for who she is. then james ends up with pretty and sexy ayu.

that's just my pov..

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I think the biggest complaint I saw was how ero-kawaii ayu's dress was. They said she's been showing her boobs too much xD
No such thing as showing one's boobs too much. Ero-Kawaii is always acceptable in my books.
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I don't think it'd be dull, but it would certainly be a bit closer to what I usually experience at fan forums. Lately, I've felt like when it comes to Ayu's new works and this forum, this place is constant criticism without any potential solutions with very few positive voices.

Like... how else could she have done this PV? What could she have done differently with the arrangement of Feel the love? Though there are things that are reasonable and those that are not, haha.
The ending. She should have found herself at the end and just passed the muscle dude, even if she turned into ayu. "I feel so god damn fine I don't need your shallow love". I mean, look at my names WOMEN. Geeky dork to hottie who doesn't need the assholes. I'm not feeling the love in the PV :/ just shallowness
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Old 28th November 2013, 03:59 AM
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Why are people saying the guy from the pv was shallow? He barely appears on the pv! As far as we know, the girl never said she liked him to begin with.
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It seems like he knows her. He ignores her when she "calls on him" as chubby girl, but the minute she turns into ayu he turns around, goes wow and gives her a hug. It seems like the typical shallow character
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Old 28th November 2013, 04:01 AM
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I dunno, I think the video reminds me a lot of media censorship.

Like who are gonna be the people who watch the video anyways? Probably Ayu fans, and they're females in their mid to late 20s or even early 30s.

And then you get to the point of what would THEY think or perceive from watching this. If this were a video for kids then yeah maybe given their level of analysis the video could come across very morally wrong. But these are adult women. If one in her late 20s still couldn't figure out that you really shouldn't be going to such extremes to get your man cos you know, he doesn't deserve you, then isn't that pretty sad.

Also, the video could go a lot worse. They could have the main lead go for liposuction, or starving herself, both which I think portray weight loss and the desperation for it A LOT WORSE than doing something healthy like going for a run.

But it could've been a lot better. SheFliesHigher I remember, mentioned something about them putting out this message without considering the bigger impact, and that it was done in such a shit execution manner. Yeah I agree with that. The message could've been brought a lot smarter and less "offensive" but hey we've already watched it.

And reading the comments and how most of us KNOW that it's wrong to lose weight for the sake of getting accepted or for another person already proves to me that a bulk of Ayu fans have their own set of ethos and morals to live by. Heck she's a pop star not our mom, she can't TEACH us what to do with our lives. I watched the PV cos it's Ayu and it's new and I found it super funny and endearing. It makes me want to go for a run (which I often do) and it's something good to laugh at. I didn't watch it with a thought that "man I hope Ayu teaches me a life lesson like how she does in her other PVs" because she doesn't do that and I'm independent enough as a person to know what is right and what is wrong.

The James Ellis guy was portrayed as a douchebag and Ayu stupidly decided that she's the epitome of a universally accepted lady... she made a mistake, so be it.

Also some of the theories are beginning to look like they're made out of thin air. Really, the balloon guy? We didn't even get to see his face, that's how insignificant he is to the story. So how can it be that the main lead "fell in love" with a man (is it even a man) whom we don't even see in the video? You can't just come up with conclusions when there's nothing to refer to -_-||

I don't care about the "cheap" animations cos the video was so blatantly a joke already that it doesn't matter. I dunno. I laughed at certain scenes, and I loved it, I really loved it that this lady had enough confidence in herself to laugh and make fun of herself. I want to know her and befriend her. Because in this 5:34 long video, I thought she was the epitome of sexy and confidence, not the bimbotic Ayu that appeared in the last ten seconds and got the attention of what is stereotypically a superficial male who goes for big boobs and hot bodies.
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Old 28th November 2013, 04:03 AM
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It seems like he knows her. He ignores her when she "calls on him" as chubby girl, but the minute she turns into ayu he turns around, goes wow and gives her a hug. It seems like the typical shallow character
It didn't look like he saw her when she first called him... At least not to me. I'll have to watch the ending again, but it seems as though he's like, "Eh? Did I hear my name?" and then turned around later. I'll watch again to be sure.

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Okay so I guess he saw her a bit xD LOL

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@waterballoon I agree on a lot of points, but the reason people are picking on the
"Morally wrong" message in this PV is because ayu has almost always had a deeper and thoughtful message in her PVS. She has always cheered on the individual and said be yourself.
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