Ayus music today sounds more "dated" than her entire discography

[ComatoseBunnySnatcher]

Originally Posted by Zeke.

MY STORY is perfect the way it is, and talk about bland - FIVE is like the definition of it and LOVE again is filled with more boring-ness than MY STORY. The thing that's great about MY STORY is that, even if some may feel it has slower or "boring" tracks, the tracks never suffer from trying to be something they are not. The epic tracks are epic, the nostalgic tracks are nostalgic, etc. what I'm trying to say is, I never feel the songs are being "forced", like they build up to a letdown. That doesn't happen and so it's not disappointing. The image they were trying to paint with each track is exactly what it was meant to be. However, tracks like Bye bye darling are a perfect example of songs that were meant to be on the same level as her more "fierce" and "attitude" tracks, but just didn't cut the cake. Petal as well. That tried to be dramatic but it sounded cheap by comparison.

And let's not talk about FIVE cause that atrocity is so un-Ayu. Any other artist could've released it, except for BRILLANTE, and I never would've bothered with it. I think the true test of whether you are a Stan or not is if you think of all your fav ayu songs and imagine another artist releasing it, would you still bother listening to them? I don't listen to material for the sake of it being an ayu release. If it doesn't sit well, it doesn't sit well.

LOL aside from GAME and Inspire, MS is very bland and anyone could sing it.

[Livey~]

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher

LOL aside from GAME and Inspire, MS is very bland and anyone could sing it.

[mizuki-7]

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher

LOL aside from GAME and Inspire, MS is very bland and anyone could sing it.

I absolutely don't agree This album is so nostalgic but I understand when people say that this album can be boring because there are a lot of Mid tempo songs but songs like Walking Proud, Liar, About You, Winding road, Happy Ending and Hope or Pain are not generic (in her discography maybe) I can't pretend knowing all the japanese singers but among her peers she is the only one who tried these kind of styles

Lol, it is so not rockish. Why... has elements of R&B while being a pop ballad. It has guitars, but they don't define the song -iits based more on the strings used in it. It was really does have a rock based sound. They both are atmospheric, though. I think both songs attempt to deliver a nostalgic sense, but It was is superior in that sense.

ANother song is quite an R&B song but Why is a typical Pop rock song like Ayu has done 100 times in the past and even now ! I really don't understand where you hear R&B influence in this song ? ^^

[ComatoseBunnySnatcher]

Originally Posted by mizuki-7

I absolutely don't agree This album is so nostalgic but I understand when people say that this album can be boring because there are a lot of Mid tempo songs but songs like Walking Proud, Liar, About You, Winding road, Happy Ending and Hope or Pain are not generic (in her discography maybe) I can't pretend knowing all the japanese singers but among her peers she is the only one who tried these kind of styles



ANother song is quite an R&B song but Why is a typical Pop rock song like Ayu has done 100 times in the past and even now ! I really don't understand where you hear R&B influence in this song ? ^^

r&b influenced, try to read better.
and lol, Ayu made those songs but they're standard fare. All of you little godasaki stans try to say she's some groundbreaking artist but all of those songs are run of the mill, typical jpop and SAFE jpop at that.
Just accept that it'll never slay. Either way, I'm done.

[mizuki-7]

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher

r&b influenced, try to read better.
and lol, Ayu made those songs but they're standard fare. All of you little godasaki stans try to say she's some groundbreaking artist but all of those songs are run of the mill, typical jpop and SAFE jpop at that.
Just accept that it'll never slay. Either way, I'm done.

This forum is more and more funny ! you cant speak without being attacked ...

I am not a stan and I don't put her on a piedestal I just say she has experimented more music style than her peers that's all ! give me examples it's to easy to say "typical jpop safe" ...

[ComatoseBunnySnatcher]

Originally Posted by mizuki-7

This forum is more and more funny ! you cant speak without being attacked ...

I am not a stan and I don't put her on a piedestal I just say she has experimented more music style than her peers that's all ! give me examples it's to easy to say "typical jpop safe" ...

Your little obsession with my posts is a little creepy, tbh.

And a fan supports, but doesn't praise everything -you're a fan, congrats.
And you really want examples, huh?
These are soundwise, fyi:

- ASFXX, but that's her debut so I won't count it
- B&G, Trauma, Immature, TO BE, Love ~destiny~
- Girlish, Audience
- connected (even if I love it), untie!, asib
-RAINBOW is nearly flawless, but Real me and July 1st. Independeturo too.
-MA has Angle's Song.
-MS.... Happy Ending, Hope or Pain, HONEY, Replace, winding road.
walking proud is an A grade ballad, but you can't deny its the typical one.
-(m)u was very out of the box

Won't do the rest, since i think you get the point.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher

r&b influenced, try to read better.
and lol, Ayu made those songs but they're standard fare. All of you little godasaki stans try to say she's some groundbreaking artist but all of those songs are run of the mill, typical jpop and SAFE jpop at that.
Just accept that it'll never slay. Either way, I'm done.

I will give you this: Most of her biggest hits are generic winterish ballads and generic summerish up-tempos. Very little of her staples have any experiement to them. And most of the loved albums on this forum are her safest releases to date... My Story, LOVEppears, A Song for XX, Rock'n'Roll Circus, Secret... You pick one, it's filled with generic jpop.

She did and does experiement, mostly by mixing genres on an unexpected way: RAINBOW, (miss)understood, Party Queen, Duty, NEXT LEVEL, Love songs are filled with tracks pop singers wouldn't release.
She does experiement a lot more than Koda (you can count her risky tracks with your fingers) and Namie (that usually follow the genres closely). Ai Otsuka experiements as much as Ayu (but she, as a musician, plays with structures instead of mixing genres) and Hikki has the weirdest pop catalogue ever since Deep River. Ayu (and Hikki) are huge parts on creating the sound of post 2000 jpop, but the artists following them (not everyone is) usually uses their less intersting material or a waterd down take on their most interesting as influence.

FIVE was a release focusing the general public and not her fanbase, that's why it has such an un-ayuish vibe. Considering it's her bst selling original EP on iTunes, it worked.

[Zeke.]

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher

LOL aside from GAME and Inspire, MS is very bland and anyone could sing it.

INSPIRE is my least favorite song in the album. Lol, and talk about hostility in a post.

If ayus music is so generic and jpop safe, then why is it that I can't find any other jpop artists who quite fill her void or make their attempt at "generic safe jpop hits" even half as good as ayu does them? If I wanted someone who did some strange svante garde shut then I wouldn't listen to ayu. I'd listen to some flop of the charts like rurutia.

At the end of the day, she makes good JPOP. Or did. She is a JPOP artist, glorified.