ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2015 A Cirque de Minuit ~真夜中のサーカス~ “The FINAL” - Page 19

hayasaki · #**361** 10th July 2015, 04:07 AM

Ayu wouldn't have added two more final dates if she is just giving away tix for 1000yen LOOL

ayuinh.k? · #**362** 10th July 2015, 04:37 AM

J-netizens need to start showing the receipts before they talk out of their butt. They already have conspiracy theories that there was buyback for the ABL live album

njanjayrp · #**363** 10th July 2015, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris85

It could be better if it was not lip synced. The vocal track she used had some very off-key parts. The performance looked good visually though, I have to admit.

She did not lip sync it during the Yoyogi dates. She used the regular microphone and it sounded different both times.

Ryusei · #**364** 10th July 2015, 07:36 AM

it's sad how most people just believe everything they read somewhere without there being actual proof -___-

labello · #**365** 10th July 2015, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ayuinh.k?

J-netizens need to start showing the receipts before they talk out of their butt. They already have conspiracy theories that there was buyback for the ABL live album

There were theories around that album? I wasn't following Ayu around that time, would anybody be willing to explain that a bit please?

Chris85 · #**366** 10th July 2015, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp

She did not lip sync it during the Yoyogi dates. She used the regular microphone and it sounded different both times.

I highly doubt that. Using regular microphone doesn't prove anything. She used it in Saitama shows too, but still vocal track is completely the same in both Saitama shows and Osaka show based on recordings. Why would she suddenly decide to change the routine and sing it live during Yoyogi dates?

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

I reaaallly don't think tickets for concerts would be given away for free just because. Sure, there are cheaper scalped tickets or resold ones, but just given away on the street? I don't think any artists really do that unless the concert was free to begin with.

They write they give them away through twitter and line, etc, but not openly on the street. Well, since we don't live in Japan, we will never know the truth.

**Yoake** · #**367** 10th July 2015, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryusei

it's sad how most people just believe everything they read somewhere without there being actual proof -___-

Unfortunately people don't have critical mind anymore.

chocopockymaster · #**368** 10th July 2015, 10:52 AM

^^ has anyone ever told you that your fixation on which tracks are sung live and which are performed with playback has moved past curiosity and borders on an unhealthy level of obsession?

Chris85 · #**369** 10th July 2015, 10:59 AM

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^^ has anyone ever told you that your fixation on which tracks are sung live and which are performed with playback has moved past curiosity and borders on an unhealthy level of obsession?

No, otherwise I would make tons of posts regarding this matter, I mean if I were obsessed, which is not the case. We have speech freedom, so I don't plan to censor my thoughts just because they happen to bother you. People go to Ayu's concerts for different reasons. I go not for the show, but to enjoy live vocals, so it's only natural if like to figure out what was live and what wasn't.

njanjayrp · #**370** 10th July 2015, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris85

I highly doubt that. Using regular microphone doesn't prove anything. She used it in Saitama shows too, but still vocal track is completely the same in both Saitama shows and Osaka show based on recordings. Why would she suddenly decide to change the routine and sing it live during Yoyogi dates?

They write they give them away through twitter and line, etc, but not openly on the street. Well, since we don't live in Japan, we will never know the truth.

Unless you have a HQ ver of the recordings further discussion is pointless. I don't really believe anything was lip synced, there are some parts where the back track was obviously prominent, but to me the whole show sounded very live unlike poker face/HONEY in 2013 when all of sudden the sound was different. Plus I don't think performance was that complex, so don't even get the need for her to lip sync it, which I would totally understand for GAME or 1LOVE.

spanishfan · #**371** 10th July 2015, 11:10 AM

^^Maybe they didn't tell you what they think, but I'm sure a lot of people think the same chocopockymaster told. lol
I've seen post telling you sure have lot's of free time in order to be able to compare tracks. But in the end we are free to do anything we want, right?

Why sing live the final? maybe because the whole team, not only ayu, is more confident about making it perfect; it's the final leg of the tour, the most important dates... there are lots of reasons, I don't know.

Chris85 · #**372** 10th July 2015, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by spanishfan

^^Maybe they didn't tell you what they think, but I'm sure a lot of people think the same chocopockymaster told. lol
I've seen post telling you sure have lot's of free time in order to be able to compare tracks. But in the end we are free to do anything we want, right?

Why sing live the final? maybe because the whole team, not only ayu, is more confident about making it perfect; it's the final leg of the tour, the most important dates... there are lots of reasons, I don't know.

Well, first of all that comment about my time was kind of insulting. If someone dislikes some message, there's no need to be rude. It's like as if I told someone "no, you can't discuss certain matters on AHS, like her album covers". Would it make sense? Would it be correct? Lip syncing seems to be very sensitive topic for a lot of users here.
Yoyogi dates were not final ones.

kinix · #**373** 10th July 2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris85

No, otherwise I would make tons of posts regarding this matter, I mean if I were obsessed, which is not the case. We have speech freedom, so I don't plan to censor my thoughts just because they happen to bother you. People go to Ayu's concerts for different reasons. I go not for the show, but to enjoy live vocals, so it's only natural if like to figure out what was live and what wasn't.

I think u missed my last post regarding ur lipsync proving fetishism.
I wonder how difficult it is for a singer to sing a similar track to her own song. And how reliable is ur software. It doesn't says 100% ritez? And who the crowd cheering and environmental sound, if ur program says 100% accurate, I highly doubt it's accuracy too.
When u go to a concert, have fun and go home with a good memory. Instead of going home n doing csi to prove whether it's lipsync or not.

Aderianu · #**374** 10th July 2015, 12:15 PM

We’re free to go anywhere we want
We’re free to do anything we want

Isn't it? Do we really need to discuss here what bothers us? I have a looooot of things to say.

I'm 100% sure ayu didn't sing the whole concert. She always did it before, always. Why would she stop at so long concert.

mizuki-7 · #**375** 10th July 2015, 12:28 PM

^It's not entirely true AT 2010/CDL 10-11/AT 2011/CDL 11-12/AT 2012 & CDL 12-13 are all fully live even the last one seems to me fully live too but yeah this discussion over and over again ... enjoy the show Ayumi is not the first and will not be the last one to use pre recorded tracks... even the biggest vocalists in the world lip sync !! and what about musicians lol?

Ryusei · #**376** 10th July 2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoake

Unfortunately people don't have critical mind anymore.

exactly :// It's a pity..

kinix · #**377** 10th July 2015, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu

We’re free to go anywhere we want
We’re free to do anything we want

Isn't it? Do we really need to discuss here what bothers us? I have a looooot of things to say.

I'm 100% sure ayu didn't sing the whole concert. She always did it before, always. Why would she stop at so long concert.

Not always. You're exaggerating. Pretty sure early 2000s concert ain't lipsync. And POM? I doubt so too.

truehappiness · #**378** 10th July 2015, 02:11 PM

If they did it on LINE and Twitter, shouldn't it be obvious? We DO have users who live in Japan here and they should be able to verify such claims.

Chris85 · #**379** 10th July 2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

If they did it on LINE and Twitter, shouldn't it be obvious? We DO have users who live in Japan here and they should be able to verify such claims.

I guess you are right, it seems to be rumours coming from haters, most stuff is really negative about Ayu on that ch.

**ayumisrael** · #**380** 10th July 2015, 06:49 PM

It's been known for years that 2ch is full of haters in general, and ayu/kuu are example for few of their favorites to troll. They hate their guts there. I wouldn't even look there since it's a dead pool of negativity.

They would invent anything to downgrade ayu. Now things are making sense.