Ayu is now on Spotify

[kaled kalil]

I can't with people who thinks that streaming with end the physical CD market. CDs killed LPs and they are still being released, netflix killed DVD/Blu-ray and they still a thing. Don't worry, they won't end something that they can still make money out of it from collectors and stuff.

I personally don't care for the music streaming business, but I think it's a valid thing for you to know different styles and artists that you would never know otherwise.

As someone said early, I only use spotify when I don't care about the album enough for me to buy/rip my own copy.

This whole thing "stream vs physical copy" is getting like "you're only a real fan if you listen to her musics with the original copy". Blah.

[EndOfTheWorld]

Originally Posted by kaled kalil

I can't with people who thinks that streaming with end the physical CD market. CDs killed LPs and they are still being released, netflix killed DVD/Blu-ray and they still a thing. Don't worry, they won't end something that they can still make money out of it from collectors and stuff.

I personally don't care for the music streaming business, but I think it's a valid thing for you to know different styles and artists that you would never know otherwise.

As someone said early, I only use spotify when I don't care about the album enough for me to buy/rip my own copy.

This whole thing "stream vs physical copy" is getting like "you're only a real fan if you listen to her musics with the original copy". Blah.

I don't think anyone here is saying that streaming and exploring music online is without huge benefits. I would not even be such a big fan of Jpop if it weren't for things like Youtube and streaming. Digital music has allowed me to discover music that I never would have access too otherwise. Spotify has it's benefits. Physical and digital both have pros and cons.
The point is that at this current moment, yes CDs still exist. But streaming will only increase. In the future, CDs will be gone unless people like me try to keep it alive. Future generations will not even know what a CD is so why would they buy them. It costs money to produce CDs and they will stop making them when they stop selling enough to make a decent profit. Just look at the gaming industry. Some games are not even released physically AT ALL and this is becoming more frequent. A sign of the future.
If you guys think streaming won't kill CDs, that is a bit of denial. There are people that actually would like CDs to go away they hate them so much.
Some people just can't understand this argument because they don't feel the same way as people who prefer physical. Owning the physical copy or building a collection is an emotional thing. Some people love the feeling of owning and holding the physical representation of an artists work. They feel a sense of pride building a large collection of music they love so much. They want to hear their favorite songs in the high quality that they deserve to be heard in. Having something the artist can autograph. Looking at the pictures and artwork. Having the liner notes/lyrics.
Those who prefer streaming only just don't understand these feelings, so they don't understand what people like me are talking about.
Some people just want to hear the song and that is it. I don't feel that way but there isn't anything wrong with that. Sadly these people have a negative effect on those who love the physical releases.
As for the argument of "only true fans by the CD", I think there is some truth to that. If somebody really is a fan, just pressing play on a highly compressed digital file for free, versus buying the album, holding the artists finished product they worked hard on, reading the lyrics, sitting down and listening to it in their room, listening to all the details in the music, admiring the album on the shelf. Those fans just don't see how the album is an integral part of the artist they claim to love so much.
For example, I think someone who only streams an artist's music when they can easily buy the CD/vinyl shows a lack of passion for the artist since they don't even think their album is worth paying money for or owning. But this doesn't mean they don't qualify as a fan.

[indigochild]

I used to collect CDs especially in the early 2000's when my Jpop craze was at a high point and would purchase both the CD and CD+DVD edition of singles and albums As I've gotten older though I realize that I wouldn't even touch the CDs that are displayed on a bookcase anymore after I ripped them on my computer. I was basically just throwing money away collecting CDs that were gathering dust which is why I turned to streaming. I always just use my phone to listen to music now anyways. I get a bluetooth speaker and I'm good to go. Same goes for my car so I just don't have any need to buy albums anymore I don't think that takes away the "experience". I never just sit down and look through the booklet while listening to an album anyways so that doesn't relate to me. And that goes for all media really. Video games, music, books, movies etc. I've strictly gone digital. At the end of the day, we're all going to die and it's all materialistic things that isn't coming to the grave with us :\ (sorry to make it morbid at the end lol)

Originally Posted by EndOfTheWorld

For example, I think someone who only streams an artist's music when they can easily buy the CD/vinyl shows a lack of passion for the artist since they don't even think their album is worth paying money for or owning. But this doesn't mean they don't qualify as a fan.

Nothing against you at all, but I have a problem with you suggesting that it's "easy to buy" :\ Some people don't have the extra money to buy the CD. Some people live in shoebox size apartments where every space counts. I don't think it's fair to suggest that these people don't "value" an artists work just because they're not physically purchasing it.

[EndOfTheWorld]

Originally Posted by indigochild

Nothing against you at all, but I have a problem with you suggesting that it's "easy to buy" :\ Some people don't have the extra money to buy the CD. Some people live in shoebox size apartments where every space counts. I don't think it's fair to suggest that these people don't "value" an artists work just because they're not physically purchasing it.

That's fine. What I meant was that, for those people only. For the people that do have the money and do have the space. I am aware that for some people, buying the CD is not an option for them. I totally understand that. Buying vinyl and CDs is a luxury that not everyone has. In that instance, I was referring to the people that are totally able to but don't. Everyone has a different situation.
For me I don't have a steady income at all. Entertainment media in Japan is ridiculously priced. Even I get fed up with it so I get the money problem for sure. Jpop is not a cheap hobby.

[LEOyumi]

Originally Posted by EndOfTheWorld

As for the argument of "only true fans by the CD", I think there is some truth to that. If somebody really is a fan, just pressing play on a highly compressed digital file for free, versus buying the album, holding the artists finished product they worked hard on, reading the lyrics, sitting down and listening to it in their room, listening to all the details in the music, admiring the album on the shelf. Those fans just don't see how the album is an integral part of the artist they claim to love so much.
For example, I think someone who only streams an artist's music when they can easily buy the CD/vinyl shows a lack of passion for the artist since they don't even think their album is worth paying money for or owning. But this doesn't mean they don't qualify as a fan.

Look, I'd rather pay a Spotify subscription and be able to listen to all ayu albums in great quality than saving like, four months worth of subscription and be able to buy ONE physical album of hers that I won't even be able to listen away from home. I love having the album together with my collection, seeing the booklet, looking at the cover, but it's impossible nowadays. I have a very big ayu collection but the last thing I bought was the feel the love/merry go round single when it was released. I guess I would only buy her albums again if I ever go to Japan or sth.
The thing is... streaming is way more accessible than buying physical albums, while also being way more practical. I like buying albums from my favorite artists, but I just buy them for collecting purposes. I'll listen to them using Spotify anyways. lol
We're all fans and every one experiences the songs and their passion in different ways.