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Old 17th August 2018, 12:16 AM
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Tbh, I am really surprised by those sales. For me, this is the most shitty Ayu release ever and I expected a total flop. Don't understany why people are buying this other than because of the name "Ayumi Hamasaki" on it.
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Old 17th August 2018, 12:27 AM
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Tbh, I am really surprised by those sales. For me, this is the most shitty Ayu release ever and I expected a total flop. Don't understany why people are buying this other than because of the name "Ayumi Hamasaki" on it.
You know, people have different tastes. What you consider her worst others may consider it her best or feel very connected with the songs. I consider no more words and Voyage studio version the most boring and dull songs on Earth but many Ayu fans seems to love and worship those two.
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Old 17th August 2018, 08:22 PM
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I'm happy for her as well with these sales. Good for her, but I hope these nice sales don't give avex any more ideas about releasing 5 track "albums" in the future.

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You know, people have different tastes. What you consider her worst others may consider it her best or feel very connected with the songs. I consider no more words and Voyage studio version the most boring and dull songs on Earth but many Ayu fans seems to love and worship those two.
True it seems like some people think just because they dislike something everyone else has to too

I'm wondering which song her Japanese fans like the most on the album. They seem to be liking it overall, but I'm sure there's one track that really sold the album to them. Maybe æternal?
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Old 17th August 2018, 09:00 PM
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They seem to be liking it overall, but I'm sure there's one track that really sold the album to them. Maybe æternal?
Definitely it's æternal. It's the song she performed in Music Fair and the one with a higher position in digital charts.
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Old 21st August 2018, 05:25 PM
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You know, people have different tastes. What you consider her worst others may consider it her best or feel very connected with the songs. I consider no more words and Voyage studio version the most boring and dull songs on Earth but many Ayu fans seems to love and worship those two.
Well, seeing the overall first week sales compared with the first day sales: Looks like my theory that only fans bought it because of the name Ayumi Hamasaki on it was not that wrong. In my opinion, We Are the Queens is the only remarkable song in this album. A song that is already 2 years old. I would go even further and say that most of the sales came from the concert dvds in this record, and barely anyone bought it for the songs.
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Old 21st August 2018, 06:13 PM
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Well, seeing the overall first week sales compared with the first day sales: Looks like my theory that only fans bought it because of the name Ayumi Hamasaki on it was not that wrong. In my opinion, We Are the Queens is the only remarkable song in this album. A song that is already 2 years old. I would go even further and say that most of the sales came from the concert dvds in this record, and barely anyone bought it for the songs.
I don't know, these songs seem to fit right in with Japanese tastes. But I think nearly everything else about this release put it at a major disadvantage.
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Old 21st August 2018, 07:16 PM
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Well, seeing the overall first week sales compared with the first day sales: Looks like my theory that only fans bought it because of the name Ayumi Hamasaki on it was not that wrong. In my opinion, We Are the Queens is the only remarkable song in this album. A song that is already 2 years old. I would go even further and say that most of the sales came from the concert dvds in this record, and barely anyone bought it for the songs.
aeternal and The way I am are actually way more popular with the Japanese fans. Nothing wrong with supporting your favorite artist and whatever you pre-otder you usually purchase based on trust not knowing whether you’ll actually like it.
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Old 21st August 2018, 08:37 PM
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Well, seeing the overall first week sales compared with the first day sales: Looks like my theory that only fans bought it because of the name Ayumi Hamasaki on it was not that wrong. In my opinion, We Are the Queens is the only remarkable song in this album. A song that is already 2 years old. I would go even further and say that most of the sales came from the concert dvds in this record, and barely anyone bought it for the songs.
My guess is that the week of streaming ahead of release hurt sales, as well as the fact that it was advertised as a new "album" but only contains five tracks, of which only three are new recordings, and that there were no PVs. However, worth noting that her first week sales for TROUBLE are more than Koda's total sales for AND, which did have the full album treatment.

I love TROUBLE. I think it's the most Ayu thing we've seen from Ayu since NL/GUILTY, but looking at it from 30,000 feet, I think it would be more meaningful for her to deliver A BEST 3 with 5-7 new songs, re-recorded PVs/songs—like Namie's Finally—than focus on original material right now. Recreate some of those memorable Lumix or Panasonic or BOSS CMs, maybe do a sequel photobook to (miss)understood. Something creative and interesting and nostalgic for fans while still being fresh.

And on the plus side, if she finds she's just not that into the whole experience anymore, she can reasonably retire after a release like that and it won't feel as much like we're watching a star burn itself out bit by bit, year over year.
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