Ayumi, the Smashing Pumkins, and Sept. 11 ???

ohsixthirty · #1 9th October 2004, 05:13 AM

Ok...I have two questions.

I've heard that the song Endless Sorrow was given that title because Ayumi is a fan of The Smashing Pumpkins, and they had a cd or something called "Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness."

Infinite Sadness = Endless Sorrow ???

And also, is A Song is Born really a tribute song to September 11th and was the planned cover of the album I am... changed in response to September 11th?

#2 9th October 2004, 05:58 AM

I heard about the A Song Is Born thing too I think it was in relation to September 11 but Im not sure about the Smashing Pumpkins one

thatd be pretty wicked tho

**Calico** · #3 9th October 2004, 06:27 AM

A Song Is Born IS in tribute to Sept. 11th. A bunch of artists collaborated together, and all of the sales of their singles went towards a Sept. 11th fund. The singles includde A Song is Born (Ayu and Keiko), Lovin' It (Namie Amuro and VERBAL I think...) and The Meaning of Peace (BoA and Koda Kumi).

I also heard that the original title of Endless sorrow was SEPIA...but because some other artist (I think Shela?) was coming out with a song called that around the same time, they told Ayu to change it. =\ I only heard that once, somewhere...

ohsixthirty · #4 9th October 2004, 06:35 AM

^ May have been the same place that I heard it was derived from the Smashing Pumpkins, haha!

Lovin' it seems like an odd song name for a tribute to Sept. 11. Then again, I don't think I've actually heard it.

leafyamazaki · #5 9th October 2004, 07:02 AM

Actually, the planned cover (rumoured) for "I am..." was Dearest's. Or at least that's what I read.

Jonny · #6 9th October 2004, 07:16 AM

I'm not sure about the Ayu-Smashing-Pumpkins connection. This is the first I ever heard about it. Calico hit it right on the nose about A Song is Born.

But about the I am... cover. According to Ayu on TIME magazine (at least I think it was TIME), she said that it was going to be more extravegant and what not, but decided to go that route since 911.

sxesven · #7 9th October 2004, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by touchedstar

Ok...I have two questions.

I've heard that the song Endless Sorrow was given that title because Ayumi is a fan of The Smashing Pumpkins, and they had a cd or something called "Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness."

That's Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness. Great album, I must add. However, I have never heard of this supposed connection.

extepan · #8 9th October 2004, 03:42 PM

interesting idea, but i dont think SP and endless sorrow are connected

PickleCookies · #9 10th October 2004, 02:40 AM

Smashing Pumpkins suck. (in my opinion

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Ibitsu Kokoro · #10 10th October 2004, 02:45 AM

If you read the interview, ayumi had a rock influence at the time of i am and was listening to the smashing pumpkins. Oh and picklecookies, some people might like them so don't just make a statement like that.

PickleCookies · #11 10th October 2004, 02:52 AM

Better?

Lorelei · #12 10th October 2004, 03:47 AM

If there is a connection between SP and Ayu, and even if there isn't, it could just be a coincidence^^ stranger things have happened.

gakkun · #13 10th October 2004, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayuspeed

If you read the interview, ayumi had a rock influence at the time of i am and was listening to the smashing pumpkins. Oh and picklecookies, some people might like them so don't just make a statement like that.

I thought Ayu listened to them when she was little, when her neighbour's brother influenced her music taste or something. Maybe I remember wrong..

ohsixthirty · #14 10th October 2004, 08:50 AM

Oooh, so Endless Sorrow is inspired (title at least) by the Smashing Pumpkins.

sxesven · #15 10th October 2004, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PickleCookies

Better?

Nothing wrong with those good old Pumpkins.

Billy Corgan : Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins.
Homer : Homer Simpson, smiling politely.

ruixiong89 · #16 11th October 2004, 01:44 PM

Mmm ... well, I don't think Ayu ever released that album cover. However, I think it's great that she chose I am ..., the current one for the cover. It is like so totally pretty and I just love it so much. It's kind of sad too, I mean yar, it's all to remember those who were lost. It's the least Ayu could do, promote world peace (only to fall on deaf ears ...)

kournikova · #17 11th October 2004, 02:12 PM

dun understand... .. ^^

julian · #18 11th October 2004, 04:03 PM

Now I'm curious, did she actually already do the photoshoot for the original I am... album cover or did she just change ideas at the last minute? I'd love to get my hands on the original album pictures if they exist

007_kenshin · #19 11th October 2004, 04:34 PM

If I remember somewhere correctly, she had a completly different Album she was going to have but she changed it at the last moment due to the disaster of 9/11

She thought that people were in a state of distress so she changed the mood of the Ablum into I am... and A Song Is Born was a charity single duet with KEIKO for 9/11

Delirium-Zer0 · #20 11th October 2004, 06:43 PM

I think she had the idea, but I don't know if she'd taken the photos yet. The album was due out for release in october or november though, and it was delayed to 1/01 because of the change of plans after 9/11.