Pride = Crucified?

[Sweer]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

OMG I have been RACKING MY BRAIN trying to figure out where I heard that melody before! I KNOW it's a weird thing to say but THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS XD!!!! *hug hug hug* oh man. My brain suddenly feels so much better now. XD!!

hahaha yeah I've been searching for hours after hearing Pride the first time, but the only line in the lyrics I could remember (and even that took me some time) was crucify (<--- tada). and there was my mistake, since it was crucified and not crucify so I couldnt find it nowhere XD

[greggerz189]

Originally Posted by Rody!

To be fair, don't be pissed at Ayu; she didn;t compose the song. GEO of SWEETBOX composed the song.

Thank you!! Don't be pissed at Ayu. It was GEO not CREA.

[[taskin.ayu]]

I was sure the beat did come from somewhere, so I'm not surprised. She wrote the lyrics, so we should be happy that it was original on her part, she probably has never heard the other song before.

[himawari]

[QUOTE=voltron]So I was showing my boyfriend the video for Pride and, like many others, he said the song sounded so familiar. It took him a while, but he got the song. It was a one-hit-wonder from the 90s called Army of Lovers, and the song was called "Crucified." The chords and notes of the chorus are almost identical.

Listen:
http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...I04M4NPTKBN25A[/

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I remember that song and the weird video. I was thinking the same thing when I heard Pride

[Happii]

AHA! I knew it! This is what I wrote in the Opinions on B&D/Pride thread after I listened to Pride.

Originally Posted by Happii

Pride... Is this song a cover or something? Normally I can tell if a song is an Ayu song or not after listening the first 5 seconds but Pride somewhat sounded VERY different than Ayu's regular breathtaking ballads.

[norain]

Well, it's really different so I can't say

[~*Mabushii*~]

okay.. the begining sounds very much like part of pride. O.O;; although.. this song isn't very good the rest of it.. I deffinatly like how pride sounds in the part thats similar.
.. o.O;; it's scary you can actually sing pride in that part along with it..
ah well, maybe the composer is the same composer?.. and asked Ayu and she liked how it sounded but wanted it a little different?

[indicatoto101]

you guys have really good hearing cause I don't hear the resemblance. The two choruses sound pretty different to me. The chorus of crucified is pretty catchy though while the chorus of pride is a litte harder to remember. When I first heard pride, the piano intro reminded of a song I've heard before. Now that I've listened to crucifed, I can say it's not the song I was thinking of, like I said, I don't hear the resemblance. Could be classical Beethoven or some "old due who died a hundred years ago".

[Ryoko]

This type of thing happens often and usually not on purpose - a composer may come up with something and then someone tells them it has the same exact melody or chords from another song, so...

you can't blame Ayu. And if Pride does take excerpts from crucified, wouldn't in say so in the booklet? Just like with the song "Duty"?

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by kendelle

Does it really matter if they're simiilar? Like others have said earlier, there will eventually be no original songs left, and it's not like she ripped the whole tune, and is calling it her own...

Well, it's not just similar. I think it is pretty obvious that GEO ripped the melody for Pride from this song. You can sing the lyrics to Pride over the lyrics to Crucified and it all fits - in order for that to happen, it would have to be an extreme coincidence. However it is completely not Ayu's fault. I doubt she has ever heard this song or even heard of the group. (I hadn't)

[truehappiness]

Me neither. Plus if it was the case, then it might've been credited like Memorial address was. :F

I want the official lyrics for that.. /slaps Ayu for not giving them out

[Dreamland]

blame nobody because its nobody's fault

Did anyone suggest that maybe they allowed ayu to use their music alike-ness crap?
Kinda like when an artist brings back an old song?
I Love rock and roll - Britney Spears? etc.

People jump to conclusions too much today. Freaking annoying.

I'm just waiting for someone to yell at you and say this is another one of those copy threads
It proabably already happened for all i know.

And yes, the song sounds kinda like Ayu's PRIDE, but think about it, it's quite different.
That goes to those who jump to conclusions and start hating/getting angry at ayu and crap.

I HATE that above all.

And dreamland's right.

Everyone has gotta find someone else to blame these days

Ryoko is also correct.
A composer may think of a nice tune, and it turns out they had heard it before, and not knowing it, they use it again.

[HvnSntGurl]

Ok the song is sort of similar. It's not anything to get all worked up over. Plus Pride sounds ten times better then that anyway.

[apples]

yeah, when i first heard it i was like, "this sounds like the anastasia song"

this song, "crucified" is not as good as ayu's, it's just terrible

i love Pride so much, i dont care if it did come from this or anything, it's different in it's own way and i love it.

Crucified is baaad.

Pride is goood.

<3 <3 <3

[Neo Daydream]

OMG! itz like the exact same thing! >.< but itz GEO's fault, not Ayu! Ayu still rox

[tomiko8]

i just listned and its funny because when i originally heard it it sounded really familiar but things like this happen and to blame ayu is a bit out there besides she didnt come up w/ the tune just the lyrics.

[Delirium-Zer0]

I do think GEO probably did this by accident. It's an old enough song that it's likely GEO probably heard it ages ago and had the melody in his head for a long time. Tori Amos did the same thing with her song "hey Jupiter"... it sounds JUST like prince's "Purple Rain", and it was a total accident on her part. It happens with songwriters sometimes.

Sometimes a singer WILL write a song and by coincidence it'll sound like another song. The Rolling Stones' "Anybody Seen My Baby" has a melody in the chorus that's exactly the same as k.d. lang's "Constant Craving", and they had never heard the song before... when they heard the resemblance though, they decided to give k.d. lang a writing credit in their album and some of the royalties for the song. Very grown-up thing to do on their part, i think.

[Ballerina_xXX]

Originally Posted by Rody!

To be fair, don't be pissed at Ayu; she didn;t compose the song. GEO of SWEETBOX composed the song.

Everyone should know that if it has to do with Sweetbox than its more than likely going to be a sample/remake. That's almost a fact.