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Old 25th April 2006, 04:38 AM
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Male solo artists?

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I think very rarely do male solo artists come to be 'omg hot.'

Usually the groups do the best. Only male one I can think of that sells WELL and charts on the oricon a lot is Ken Hirai, and he has the top album position [right?]
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Old 25th April 2006, 04:40 AM
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Last year there were more solo artists and non-johnny's groups selling compared to this year thus far. Almost all artists that are non-Johnny's sales' are down compared to this time last year. Only one song by a female artist has sold more than 200,000 copies so far this year.(and that is only because it was used in a drama) That's just not good at all. No matter what way you look at it, the only people selling well right now are the boy bands.
I agree that this year especially there's a lot more JE in the top 10. (half of the top 10 is JE). But, there's about the same amount of non-JE and the same amount of solo artists in the top 30. As for having only 1 female artist selling more than 200k so far into the year, if you look back at the same time last year, "Jupiter" was the highest selling female single during this time, and that only sold 175k. We already have 3 female singles selling more than that. But hey, the year's not even half way done yet, so I'm still very optimistic for the rest of the year.

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Male solo artists?

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I think very rarely do male solo artists come to be 'omg hot.'

Usually the groups do the best. Only male one I can think of that sells WELL and charts on the oricon a lot is Ken Hirai, and he has the top album position [right?]
Me too. He's really the one that I can think of when it comes to success right now. Yes, his best album does have the top album position so far.

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Old 25th April 2006, 08:24 AM
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I agree that this year especially there's a lot more JE in the top 10. (half of the top 10 is JE). But, there's about the same amount of non-JE and the same amount of solo artists in the top 30. As for having only 1 female artist selling more than 200k so far into the year, if you look back at the same time last year, "Jupiter" was the highest selling female single during this time, and that only sold 175k. We already have 3 female singles selling more than that. But hey, the year's not even half way done yet, so I'm still very optimistic for the rest of the year.


Me too. He's really the one that I can think of when it comes to success right now. Yes, his best album does have the top album position so far.
You have to remember that Jupiter did not come out in 2005. It came out way back in 2003! It was on the chart a very long time and sold close to a million copies. So it's not the best example. Better would be that by this time last year Ayumi released Step You which went on to sell 345,000 copies, BoA had released one of her most financially successful singles ever with Do the Motion, Mika Nakashima released Sakura Mau Koro which sold over 100,000 copies(a strong number for her). Compare that to this year where Ayumi's sales have fallen to under 200,000 and none of the supposed "successors" to her throne are selling well either.(Koda's album is selling great, but we are talking singles here.) That just looks sad.

I'm not necassarily comparing Ayu and other artists to the sales of the boy bands - the boy groups do typically sell more, as you stated. The only artists that hang with them sales wise are usually Ayumi, B'z, Mr. Children, and the Southern All Stars. What I was looking at more, was comparing each artist and boy group to themselves. The boy groups sales are pretty much all up across the board and other artists sales are dropping. Which sucks. I like my share of boy bands sometimes too but this year so far has been ridiculous.

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Old 25th April 2006, 09:18 AM
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Well, mainly we can blame it on fans of the other artists being all confused on who to purchase from and all that xD :x
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Old 25th April 2006, 01:12 PM
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You have to remember that Jupiter did not come out in 2005. It came out way back in 2003! It was on the chart a very long time and sold close to a million copies. So it's not the best example. Better would be that by this time last year Ayumi released Step You which went on to sell 345,000 copies, BoA had released one of her most financially successful singles ever with Do the Motion, Mika Nakashima released Sakura Mau Koro which sold over 100,000 copies(a strong number for her). Compare that to this year where Ayumi's sales have fallen to under 200,000 and none of the supposed "successors" to her throne are selling well either.(Koda's album is selling great, but we are talking singles here.) That just looks sad.
I know that Jupiter was released in 2003. But what I was trying to say was that at the same point last year, there was still a lack of female singles too. There wasn't a 200k selling single until STEP you's 2nd week, which is pretty much in line with this year. (but of instead of ayu, its ayaka) As for BoA and Mika, all I can think is maybe the post-BEST album craze hit them?

Since Kumi hasn't released any singles outside of the 12 this year, we cant really say anything. But, all 3 of her non limited ones did pretty well. Yes, Someday/BoysGirls didnt pass 100k; but that was released 2 weeks before the album. Compared that to Promise/Star which was also released 2 weeks before her 1st best album in september, Someday/BoysGirls did a lot better.
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Old 25th April 2006, 01:49 PM
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Old 25th April 2006, 01:57 PM
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Mika, all I can think is maybe the post-BEST album craze hit them?
What post-BEST album craze? She released Sakurairo in early '05 and the BEST in late '05.
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Old 25th April 2006, 09:36 PM
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What post-BEST album craze? She released Sakurairo in early '05 and the BEST in late '05.
oh sorry i was really referring to CRY NO MORE and for BoA, everything after DTM.
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Old 25th April 2006, 10:32 PM
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Perhaps there won't be any female solos in the top ten this year? Last year only one made it; Mika Nakashima, at number 10.

for 2004 there were only three, COUNTING GORIE. I guess the trend is going against female solos and it's continuing this year.

Let's just hope that Ayu can make it to the top 10 this year with her new mega-summer release! Last time she was in the top ten was when "&" was released....
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Old 26th April 2006, 12:52 AM
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OMG!! Ayu 1st album didnt break 1 million!!!
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Old 26th April 2006, 03:09 AM
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Question. Did MY STORY reach this many sales as fast as (miss)understood did (approximately 4 months 20 days)?

If (miss)understood's sales continue like this, it may very well take her until 2007 to reach one million. MY STORY took a year.
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Old 26th April 2006, 03:16 AM
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Question. Did MY STORY reach this many sales as fast as (miss)understood did (approximately 4 months 20 days)?

If (miss)understood's sales continue like this, it may very well take her until 2007 to reach one million. MY STORY took a year.
MY STORY passed the million in 6 weeks after release, which was around late January 2005.
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Old 26th April 2006, 03:17 AM
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Oh, it did? O_o I must be thinking of A BALLADS. So (miss)understood isn't doing too good, is it?
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Old 27th April 2006, 02:50 PM
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^(m)u performed quite well considering the current status of the market, but not good enough for Ayu's standard =(
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Old 27th April 2006, 03:29 PM
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^(m)u performed quite well considering the current status of the market, but not good enough for Ayu's standard =(
Yep true.. Maybe standards have to be reset?

Sales seem to be picking up again.. This week's one sold over 200 000.. Maybe the sales will go all out like a few years back? And Ayu's next single might really break a million. It depends on promotion I say..
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