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Old 1st June 2006, 12:28 AM
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Kumi deserves it more than Ayu? Ayu has worked longer and harder! Kumi is just popping out tunes like there is no tomorrow...
What??? Watch your mouth b4 talk! Kumi debuted 6 years ago but just that she didnt have the luck of Ayu to get popularity sooner! Ayu cant be the no.1 forever, just see the reality!!! as year pass, another diva comes up, another one will became the most popular artist, as Ayu was before Ku and Namie before Ayu and whoever before Namie..
Anyway your joke about slep with Max is not funny at all, Kuu made so much efforts for get popularity since its 6 YEARS she is working for it and now that she got it I think she REALLY deserve it!! I think we all knew that someday Ayu would be get down because of another star, and that day is now!
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If we stop buying CDs, maybe AVEX will throw Ayu out, and she will make her own label!
I hope so ^^ I also hope she will become a producer and produce many good singers ^^
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I wasn't "freaking out", I am just mad that Avex is moving so fast with this junk... I mean, I LOVE KUMI - she is so hot and her music is soooo good! But I could never place anyone above Ayu, even if I tried. The main thing I am mad about is that Avex is rushing everything and I hope they pay for it in the end!
I doubt about it, if you love Kuu then why start to talk like "does she deserve it?" and that not funny joke?

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Old 1st June 2006, 12:36 AM
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What??? Watch your mouth b4 talk! Kumi debuted 6 years ago but just that she didnt have the luck of Ayu to get popularity sooner! Ayu cant be the no.1 forever, just see the reality!!! as year pass, another diva comes up, another one will became the most popular artist, as Ayu was before Ku and Namie before Ayu and whoever before Namie..
Anyway your joke about slep with Max is not funny at all, Kuu made so much efforts for get popularity since its 6 YEARS she is working for it and now that she got it I think she REALLY deserve it!! I think we all knew that someday Ayu would be get down because of another star, and that day is now!
WATCH YOUR MOUTH! "I think we all knew that someday Ayu would be get down because of another star, and that day is now!" - tsk tsk tsk... This is NOT TRUE (at the moment) and this is an Ayu forum so how can you say that, lol? And I thought my joke was so funny because Ku is always flashing her sexiness you know and it is just picking on that fact, just like many people say Ayu wears lots of make-up (which I don't think she does because her pics w/out make-up were gorgeous) and I made a joke how Kumi said that about Ayu! Sense of humor much? Anyways, another reason I am sort of upset with Ku and Avex is that she is selling out (mainly due to avex wanting more money)! Releasing these singles and songs one after another and "BEST" albums... I mean come on now! I guess it is easier to do when you don't write any of the lyrics...

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I doubt about it, if you love Kuu then why start to talk like "does she deserve it?" and that not funny joke?
Like I said, sense of humor... Just like I love Hilary Duff but am very upset that she has succumb to the comments about her weight and lost it all and has become a stick figure and has a horse face... Believe me - I love Hilary Duff (Ill show you pics of my room) but I can joke about it... I do love Ku as well, just not as much (far from it) as Ayu - she is prob. my 3rd fav. jpop artist!

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Old 1st June 2006, 12:39 AM
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I guess it is easier to do when you don't write any of the lyrics...
ehrmm... kuu writes most of her lyrics x_x
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Old 1st June 2006, 12:42 AM
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ehrmm... kuu writes her lyrics x_x
I read earlier in this thread (or maybe another) that she didn't write much but a few... Also, how could she put much thought into them if she released them 1 week after another? I'm refering to the 12 singles, not the other songs because that is where she had begun to sell out (even though I love the 12 singles, lol)...
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OMG, does a Kumi vs Ayu argument always have to occur in every Ayu news thread these days?
anime_fanatic21: just because Kumi didn't write all of her lyrics doesn't mean that she didn't pour her heart onto it. Her lyrics are as well-written, if not better, as Ayu's. Afterall, Ayu isn't the only one who can write her lyrics, alot of other artists do it too. If you're a fan as you claimed you were, you should be glad that she's doing well now.
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Old 1st June 2006, 02:18 AM
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OMG, does a Kumi vs Ayu argument always have to occur in every Ayu news thread these days?
anime_fanatic21: just because Kumi didn't write all of her lyrics doesn't mean that she didn't pour her heart onto it. Her lyrics are as well-written, if not better, as Ayu's. Afterall, Ayu isn't the only one who can write her lyrics, alot of other artists do it too. If you're a fan as you claimed you were, you should be glad that she's doing well now.
I am happy she is doing good but she crossed the line, lol, or Avex did... Trying to promote her in such a short time to #1... w/e I said all I can say I guess...
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I read earlier in this thread (or maybe another) that she didn't write much but a few... Also, how could she put much thought into them if she released them 1 week after another? I'm refering to the 12 singles, not the other songs because that is where she had begun to sell out (even though I love the 12 singles, lol)...
I love Ayu and Kumi the same, really, but that's just stupid. Of course Koda Kumi worked as much or harder than Ayu to have what she has to day. It was 6 years of working hard to FINALLY becoming popular. And about she releasing singles and albums one after another? That's so hypocrite, Ayu did the same thing!!!! OK, it wasn't 12 singles a week, but it was A LOT. Koda Kumi estrategy isn't different from Ayu's in the start of her carreer!!

Plus, her 12 singles took years of planning as she stated in an interview and she writes all of her lyrics, just like Ayu. So please, before you start talking this type of thing, go do a little research -_-.
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Old 2nd June 2006, 03:31 AM
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I love Ayu and Kumi the same, really, but that's just stupid. Of course Koda Kumi worked as much or harder than Ayu to have what she has to day. It was 6 years of working hard to FINALLY becoming popular. And about she releasing singles and albums one after another? That's so hypocrite, Ayu did the same thing!!!! OK, it wasn't 12 singles a week, but it was A LOT. Koda Kumi estrategy isn't different from Ayu's in the start of her carreer!!

Plus, her 12 singles took years of planning as she stated in an interview and she writes all of her lyrics, just like Ayu. So please, before you start talking this type of thing, go do a little research -_-.
Ok, I am very stressed at the moment so if I get a little snappy you know why...

Koda Kumi... I just can't say anymore... I'm not gonna "research" every bit of Kumi history before I say something about her - I didn't know it took "years" to put out 12 songs (It only takes one year to make an album most of the time) and I am just sick of hearing "Kumi is the new best" "Ayu is trash" "Kumi is more popular than Ayu" "Ayu is getting old and Japan wants fresh faces" - enough! Can you see why I get mad? Mainly because Ayu's career isn't over, she is still the best, I mean, it ain't like she is at the end of the Alterna PV. Ayu worked hard to become big too before she got with Avex so "do some research"...
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Old 2nd June 2006, 04:42 AM
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Koda Kumi... I just can't say anymore... I'm not gonna "research" every bit of Kumi history before I say something about her - I didn't know it took "years" to put out 12 songs (It only takes one year to make an album most of the time) and I am just sick of hearing "Kumi is the new best" "Ayu is trash" "Kumi is more popular than Ayu" "Ayu is getting old and Japan wants fresh faces" - enough! Can you see why I get mad? Mainly because Ayu's career isn't over, she is still the best, I mean, it ain't like she is at the end of the Alterna PV. Ayu worked hard to become big too before she got with Avex so "do some research"...
It's true that you shouldn't have to know every detail about other artists. But if I were going to speak badly about another artist, I would want to do some research first so that I'm informed about what I'm speaking about. Ayu is my all time favorite, but I have no problem also pointing out the strengths of other artists.

And while I don't want to make this a bigger deal than it is - there is no doubt that Ayu has worked super hard since her debut but even she herself thinks that it came fairly easy to her. (hence in alterna her suddenly getting a message saying she is a star and she has a suprised look on her face) She was discovered in a kareoke bar and by her own admission had no intention of becoming a singer - she only did it because she "had nothing better to do."
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Old 1st June 2006, 02:38 AM
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What??? Watch your mouth b4 talk! Kumi debuted 6 years ago but just that she didnt have the luck of Ayu to get popularity sooner!
Well, talent has something to do with it. But I do agree Koda does deserve some recognition after 6 years. I don't think she will ever be able to touch Ayumi though in terms of songwriting and live performances.

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Releasing these singles and songs one after another and "BEST" albums... I mean come on now!
You could say the same things about Ayu though...

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Her lyrics are as well-written, if not better, as Ayu's.
Well, I would never say that. Not even close really. I think Ayumi is one of the best lyricists in the world.

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