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Old 16th June 2006, 07:13 PM
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i think the director thinks it looks better with more people from different places...especially with Beautiful Fighters....i wonder if the same guy who directed BEautiful Fighters directed Dearest, Fly High, and all the other PVs that have a lot of people from different countries....
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Old 16th June 2006, 07:23 PM
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[QUOTE=AyUmIXx]but other japanese artists do not seem always using White people in their videos...right?QUOTE]

There's Namie Amuro in Please Smile Again, Want Me Want Me, Dreaming I Was Dreaming, How To Be A Girl, and many other videos of hers that are old.

Koda Kumi in her old days had mainly black guys in her pv's.

I've seen americans in some Exile pv's, Halcali, Olivia Lufkin, and some others too, so we can't just say that Ayu's the only one doing this, but to answer your question Other artists do seem to use foreigners included in their videos.
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Old 16th June 2006, 07:35 PM
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but other japanese artists do not seem always using White people in their videos...right?QUOTE]

There's Namie Amuro in Please Smile Again, Want Me Want Me, Dreaming I Was Dreaming, How To Be A Girl, and many other videos of hers that are old.
Let's not forget those scantily clad African American male dancers in Body feels EXIT O.O Foreigners and black people are considered "cool" which is why most of the Japanese artists put them in their PVs.
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Old 17th June 2006, 06:53 AM
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Not nessesarily Americans.. could be white people who moved to Japan.
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Old 17th June 2006, 07:35 AM
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Because it's cool and looks very professional.
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Old 17th June 2006, 07:36 AM
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why is there always american in videos of ayu? and smae goes to other avex artists...

why does avex uses american people...

and also i foudn out that most ayu fans are foreingers and peopel not from japan.. why? o.o

not much of japanese really dont liek ayu nowadays.. but why is ayu is stil promoting and her fans is foreings she shoudl just go international.....
Most of Ayumi's fans ARE Japanese. And nearly every J-pop artist uses foreigners in their videos. There are quite a few forgeigners living in Japan just for that purpose - because foreigners are always in demand for CMs, videos, doramas etc.

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Her looks isn't very 'ordinary Japanese', people say she's of mixed blood, we don't know who her dad is. She doesn't look American to me in any way, but who knows?
My parents always speculate about that. (both are in the military and have been stationed in Japan at various points in their life) Being from Fukuoka, there would have been more foreigners around there durring that time than other parts of Japan - it would also explain why her father just suddenly left. Many of her features don't look typically Japanese, but really, who knows. I wouldn't completely rule her out as having mixed blood though.

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Old 17th June 2006, 12:10 PM
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ok if the role was reversed and an american artist used japnese ppl in their vids (Hell Gwen Stefani's Harujuku girls) nobody biotches about that. Thats just a racist way of thinking. I think other cultures should use people of different cultures all the time, not just their own. After all were trying to promote world peace, that includes total mixing of styles and cultures.

Racism changes the way we think by making it odd, or different when we see cultures mix, that is the way the worldis, but not the way it shoudl be. Think about it.

And thats my 2 yen.
I don't think anyone in here is actually *****ing about it, neither are we being racistical, to me this is only a discussion about why she chose to have American/European people in her PVs instead of Japanese people.
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Old 17th June 2006, 12:33 PM
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Old 17th June 2006, 02:00 PM
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^A nice and polite way of giving an opinion... There is no racism here... We are just voicing your opinions why there are always americans instead of japanese? We are just curious and asking for opinion...

Racist most probably won't join this forum because this forum is international (i guess)...
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Old 17th June 2006, 02:38 PM
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Good question, I've always wondered about it.. But whatever the reason, I think it's part of making it look international and professional. It looks so high-quality too with white people. Strange... o__o I like it better when she does that. And besides that, the people in her videos seem more European than American.
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Old 17th June 2006, 02:53 PM
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^ And that is why we say white people instead of american... Well, don't mind the topic title...
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Old 17th June 2006, 03:32 PM
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maybe Japanese people are really looking at WHITE PEOPLE as a group of people with high educational effort on them? haha
like a worship to them, i guess..huahuahuahuahuhaua
*I myself, somehow really salute to WHITE people (American people mostly) for their braveness when they're doing something dangerous which other people probably unable to do it..)

*LOL..don't listen to me~*

Gosh..somebody just misunderstood us for having a racism discussion here..Gosh..and no, we're not racism in here..we just want to know why and may have guessed for the reason that may come up to the closest reason as Ayu & Avex may think about....
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Old 17th June 2006, 04:10 PM
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^You salute to white people? I salute to Japanese... Not because Ayu is Japanese or anything... It's just that the way Japanese do things... Somehow, they never give up on doing anything and became very good at lots of stuff...

Yes and don't listen to Ayumixx!!!! Jk jk!!! hehe *hides from ayumixx*
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Old 17th June 2006, 04:17 PM
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I thought about it a lot and honsetly, it makes me mad. I mean, making Ayu vids so American :/ (it's not that I dislike America, don't misunderstand me please!). I know what Ayu wants to achieve by that. She thinks that because of Western look, she'll gain more fans. In one hand this is very true - if we consider Japanese fans (as we all know, Japanese teenagers love everything what is Western, American especially). But on the other hand, she won't get more foreign fans... Mainly, most of us (non-Japanese) find Ayu amazing and great because of her Japanese roots, Japanese apperiance etc. Ayumi underestimate the beauty and advatages of being Japanese.
But this is only my opinion. Please don't feel angry with me if you don't agree
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Old 17th June 2006, 05:00 PM
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^breathlessly agree...

Nice one... True... If her PV has japanese instead of Americans, it MAY attract more people...
I don't hate Americans please do not misunderstand... Thank you..
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Old 17th June 2006, 05:28 PM
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I really dont see what the problem is with having americans or anybody else in your videos doesnt mean ayu is losing her asian touch maybe she just wants to do something a lil different me personally I like to see a variety
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Old 17th June 2006, 05:31 PM
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But this is only my opinion. Please don't feel angry with me if you don't agree
It might seem like I am, but please understand I'm not at all angry, I just want to make a few points and I do respect your opinion very much .

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I thought about it a lot and honsetly, it makes me mad. I mean, making Ayu vids so American :/ (it's not that I dislike America, don't misunderstand me please!).
The fact that she includes American people does not make her PVs seem American-ish to me. Do you tend to watch a lot of American PVs? Or watch the American version of MTV? Really, I don't think anything can compare in any way with Ayu's PVs... hehe.

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I know what Ayu wants to achieve by that. She thinks that because of Western look, she'll gain more fans.
Don't say you know, because you can't possibly know. And as has been mentioned earlier, please don't say Ayu, say The Director of the PV, because we don't know how much control she has herself over the making of them.

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In one hand this is very true - if we consider Japanese fans (as we all know, Japanese teenagers love everything what is Western, American especially).
This does give some ground to your statement, but I still don't really agree.

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But on the other hand, she won't get more foreign fans...
I don't think that's neccesarily true, she's been going for many years, with many different styles and has never had an internation breakthrough. Possibly mainly because avex don't dare to put their artists on the international marked due to early trial-and-error results from doing so.
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Old 17th June 2006, 05:57 PM
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^I agree with you except the last on on the "But on the other hand, she won't get foreign fans"... Some people may think like "Hey! Ayu has american in her video!" and may consider on listening/buying her songs/albums/watever...

If there is no american, some people may think "Huh? Ayu? Nah..."... they wouldn't even consider because there is no american... And I refer to first time listeners americans... Some people whom may be a fan of ayu will be obsessed/or what you may call it a true fan after knowing her PVs have americans...

So having Americans in PV isn't a bad idea yet having Japanese isn't a bad one too... In fact I think it is better because you attract more pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~ fans... MAY BE some japanese who hates american won't buy her cds bcuz there is american inside... So, the whole concept is a mess... hahaha
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Old 17th June 2006, 05:58 PM
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I think the use of 'foreign' actors in her PV's is done very well. 'Endless sorrow', 'Free&Easy', and 'kanariya' just wouldn't be the same if they had Asian actors. That's just my opinion. I don't think she's trying to look cool, I just think they make the PV's more diverse and mysterious. Not to sound offensive in any way, but I think a crowd of foreign people would catch people's attention better than a crowd of Japanese. You know what I mean?
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Old 17th June 2006, 06:03 PM
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I think the use of 'foreign' actors in her PV's is done very well. 'Endless sorrow', 'Free&Easy', and 'kanariya' just wouldn't be the same if they had Asian actors. That's just my opinion. I don't think she's trying to look cool, I just think they make the PV's more diverse and mysterious. Not to sound offensive in any way, but I think a crowd of foreign people would catch people's attention better than a crowd of Japanese. You know what I mean?
I think I have uncounciously been waiting for a post like this to pop up, makes sense and in my opinion this is very true . Thanks for posting this, hehe.
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