[TAIWAN RANKING]Total Sales of the 1st half of '06 in Taiwan...

[Cyria]

Thank you for the good news!

[andre2907]

Originally Posted by walt1112

of course jolin has got fans all over asia, but of course not as many as you imagined.

Record Companies lie about their aritists' sales in order to earn more...i don't wanna explain more, becuz the Taiwanese companies have already lost their trust...

of course china is the only country that jolin has the most fans, and almost all her sales come from china, don't argue with me about this. you never how bad the chinese record market is.. it was messy, how to say...terrible, legal releases sell poor, while most of the people are downloading illegally!
of course the so-called ** million is impossible, since taiwanese idols main market is bad and bad and bad.
there are some of her fans in the other countries, but since they don't speak chinese and their population is poor(china has 1.3billion people). the overseas sale won't be high...


let me give you an example, a chinese star called Fan Bingbing, she belongs to a taiwan company, and they anounced that her debut album sells 30k. and their held a celebration! but the reporters questioned that, did your sale really reach that figure?? after a long-term questioning, she recognized that "maybe it's a little exaggeration".

Well, anyway, the reporters did knew right? So I guess, if that's the case, we can hear something.

Plus, everybody knows how messy China market is, we don't doubt that. Everything in China is ilegal...

And there's no institution to count sales, but they always know how much it shipped and the certifications and 2 million copies sold are shipped not sold to people. Anyway, if the record company said it sold 2 million copies, I won't doubt, unless there's an article or something... because by now that's the only information we have.

Originally Posted by walt112

besides, did you ever noticed that those taiwanese artists always annouced their "all-asia" sales, but never their taiwan sales...why??becuz there aren't any institution that counts the whole asia's sales, it can't be proved if the announced figure is fake. and their isn't any institution that is like ORICON, telling you the chinese mainland's sale or asia's sales.

It doesn't matter. Certifications are for shipped copies, not copies sold. And it isn't difficult to track shipped copies, you don't need a company like Billboard or Oricon to do it.

[evolution7931]

YAY! Congrats to Ayu! She OWNS!

[AyuGAME]

i fjolin can sales 2 million and get 2.72% of overall sales
than ayu with 0.95% for overall sales can get about 500k sales...
it is right? i think no...then m(u) was a million sellers right?
yeah whatever it is congrats ayu!

[immel]

^No, those 2 millions was over all of asia by what I understand, not only in Taiwan. Her sales in Taiwan is nothing even remotely close to 500k.

[ayu_fan929]

Jolin's sales in Taiwan are roughly 200k, so (m)u would have 50k sales in Taiwan.

[s1012h]

good job to ayu!
she's a money making machine XD
and F.I.R.'s new album is gonna knock Jolin Tsai off the first place in sales by the end of the year probably
if not it's definitely gonna be in the top 3 like last year
haha sorry i'm going offtopic

[darkswordz]

(m)u must have broken the million mark by now

[ayu_fan929]

^It might have, it might have not. The album would have to sell more than 125k in Asia for it to pass the million.

Originally Posted by s1012h

and F.I.R.'s new album is gonna knock Jolin Tsai off the first place in sales by the end of the year probably
if not it's definitely gonna be in the top 3 like last year
haha sorry i'm going offtopic

FIR's new album is a disappointment. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't sell well at all. imo, Dancing Diva is better than FIR's 3rd.

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

FIR's new album is a disappointment. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't sell well at all. imo, Dancing Diva is better than FIR's 3rd.

Definitely. F.I.R.'s new album was complete crap. The only song I liked was Get High. They are going down as fast as they went up.

Originally Posted by capsule

On the other hand, Asia is not one of the 3 biggest music market in the world (USA is the biggest, Japan is the second biggest and Europe is the third biggest)but an album could gradually sold 1 or more million copies in Asia

wow, and when was Japan not a part of Asia?

[Qt Mashi]

wow that's relli good!!

nice to hear that!

[capsule]

Originally Posted by !ecºice

Definitely. F.I.R.'s new album was complete crap. The only song I liked was Get High. They are going down as fast as they went up.



wow, and when was Japan not a part of Asia?

Japan is a part of Asia. What I meant is that even though Japan is small compared to all other countries in Asia, Japan has bigger music market. Even if we combined all music markets of other Asian countries, they might not stand a chance to take down the music markets of Japan. And, Japan's music industry is so ALIVE and powerful (even though it's not as alive as 5 to 6 years ago)

For example, Utada Hikaru's First Love sold more than 10 million copies in Asia. From the total sales number, 9.5 million copies sold in Japan alone. Her second album, Distance sold nearly 5.5 million copies across Asia and nearly 5 million copies sold in Japan alone. And also, Distance's first week sales was not less than 3 million copies{which, I think, the biggest I've ever seen so far. Please correct it if this is wrong or whatsoever okay}. An album in Asia{except Japan} has to take, maybe like, 1-1 and a half years to reach over a million copies, compared to Japan, an album only need only like, a week or 2 to reach a million mark. Just take a look at Utada first four album's first week sales and some of Ayumi's album too. Pretty staggering compared to other music markets in Asia. No wonder Japan is one of the top 3 music markets in the world. Another possible reason is, the piracy in Japan is not as big as those in other Asian countries. {USA is facing an extremely terrible piracy right now but still, an album could sell pretty well. Hmmm......maybe because USA is the largest music market on this Earth.}

And the first week sales of an album in Japan is much bigger than USA{but when the second week comes, the sales fall pretty miserably. Instead, an album still sell consistantly in USA }

This is my logical explaination of why Japan is not a part of Asia when it comes to music and why Japan is the second biggest music market in the world behind USA. Please don't say anything hash okay.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by capsule

Japan is a part of Asia. What I meant is that even though Japan is small compared to all other countries in Asia, Japan has bigger music market. Even if we combined all music markets of other Asian countries, they might not stand a chance to take down the music markets of Japan. And, Japan's music industry is so ALIVE and powerful (even though it's not as alive as 5 to 6 years ago)

For example, Utada Hikaru's First Love sold more than 10 million copies in Asia. From the total sales number, 9.5 million copies sold in Japan alone. Her second album, Distance sold nearly 5.5 million copies across Asia and nearly 5 million copies sold in Japan alone. And also, Distance's first week sales was not less than 3 million copies{which, I think, the biggest I've ever seen so far. Please correct it if this is wrong or whatsoever okay}. An album in Asia{except Japan} has to take, maybe like, 1-1 and a half years to reach over a million copies, compared to Japan, an album only need only like, a week ot 2 to reach a million mark. Just take a look at Utada first four album's first week sales and some of Ayumi's album too. Pretty staggering compared to other music markets in Asia. No wonder Japan is one of the top 3 music markets in the world. Another possible is, the piracy in Japan is not as big as those in other Asian countries. {USA is facing an extremely terrible piracy right now but still, an album could sell pretty well. Hmmm......maybe because USA is the largest music market on this Earth.}

And the first week sales of an album in Japan is much bigger than USA{but when the second week comes, the sales fall pretty miserably. Instead, an album still sell consistantly in USA }

This is my logical explaination of why Japan is not a part of Asia when it comes to music and why Japan is the second biggest music market in the world behind USA. Please don't say anything hash okay.

I thought it was more like 7.3 million or something.. D: ORICON even said that..

[capsule]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I thought it was more like 7.3 million or something.. D: ORICON even said that..

Oh yeah . A little corretion. Utada Hikaru's First Love album sales is 7.6 million copies in Japan and more than nearly 2.5 million copies outside Japan.{ I read about this Asia's sales number of First Love but I forgot the source }

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by capsule

An album in Asia{except Japan} has to take, maybe like, 1-1 and a half years to reach over a million copies

While it is faster in Japan for albums to pass 1 million, it certainly doesn't take 1 to 1.5 years for a non-Japanese album to pass 1 million. It's more like 1-2 months.

Yeah, Japan is mainly based on their 1st week sales, that's why many of their albums have gone on that world chart. Hikki's/Ayu's 1st week sales are bigger than the largest 1st week sales in the US by roughly 1 million. (NSYNC - with like 2 million is the largest; on the other hand Hikki got 3 million in Japan)

[andre2907]

^ Yeah, and at the end Hikki's album sold less than 5 million and Nsync album sold 10 million..

And I think this Hikki's Asia numbers aren't right.

[evechoco]

congrats to ayu

[hijingle]

Thanks for the ranking, but the results only reflects PART of the taiwan market. It is because the calculation is based on the sale of TCR (大眾唱片) and ROSE (玫瑰唱片) (2 big CD chain-stores in Taiwan) only.

Their numbers of stores in Taiwan: 12 for TCR, 20 for ROSE
(source: http://www.g-music.com.tw/GMusicAboutTcrRose.aspx)

Anyway, it is still a great news for Ayu is on the top ranking

[ayu_fan929]

^Well I guess this chart isn't that broad. Unless, they do something like Oricon and make a formula or something...

[walt1112]

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

^Well I guess this chart isn't that broad. Unless, they do something like Oricon and make a formula or something...

of course, that chart cannot work as well as oricon!

ok, i just find that there ARE some people who are always suspecting
ayu's good news... as if ayu wasn't that good!