[10/4 ORICON] Current Yearly TOP 40

[criminal]

Originally Posted by Eu-Kun

^ oh forgot that... well atleast its the highest original album by a solo female artist so far XD

and wow this is the first time ayumi beats utada in terms of album sales lol

The first fact makes me happy.
But the second one... it's just a matter of time... but it's still great!

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by immel

Seems like Ayu will only release two singles on this years Oricon chart, or is B&D counted as a 2006 single?

It's a 2006 single. I know it's most likely going to be in the TOP 100 for sure since the mininum amount to get into the TOP 100 is ~100k.

Originally Posted by immel

The phenomenon KAT-TUN isn't hard to explain.

6 incredibly talented and deliciously hot young men ... sick amounts of promotion ... boom bada boom boom bam!

Plus it was their debut album + single. JE debuts CD sales are quite big, then they just drop with their 2nd, 3rd, 4th release.. (i.e.: Arashi, NEWS)

[nodoka]

Aww. I hope that Ayu's sales are boosted in 2007! At least BLUE BIRD is above Good-bye Days by YUI.

[immel]

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

Plus it was their debut album + single. JE debuts CD sales are quite big, then they just drop with their 2nd, 3rd, 4th release.. (i.e.: Arashi, NEWS)

And kinda the whole thing with KAT-TUN is that they have debut over and over... lol.

New members, if I'm not wrong.

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by immel

And kinda the whole thing with KAT-TUN is that they have debut over and over... lol.

New members, if I'm not wrong.

Do you mean the part where it took them 5 years to debut? Because I don't think they had any new members.

[immel]

Hmm, okay, I don't know where I actually heard it from, but someone I was talking to told me that they were formed and re-formed, as a band, more than once. Not sure about anything though.

[norain]

I blame the whole thing on Avex for releasing a single a month before the album. On top of that, I blame the bad cover (except the one on Startin' PV). And for another thing...

Utada's Ultra Blue, we all know, will take number 1 for original female album. guess utada beats ayu again. Ultra Blue is still selling well over 1k a week. and it'll probably get to 880,000. around ter

[darkswordz]

stupid avex for the cover and promotion (T___T)

i think (m)u should be getting the 8th position for the yearly chart...

[..:Hot:Like:Wow:..]

I doubt Koda will ever be considered queen as she will never outsell Ayu's total record sales of 46 000 000 records so far.

Ayu's popularity is slowly rising again anyway

Bold & Delicious/Pride: 132,993
Startin' / Born To Be...: 188,551
BLUE BIRD: 258,566 (Still charting)
Jewel/1love: well i'm sure it will outsell BLUE BIRD

As for koda I predict she will fall half way through 2007.
selling only 383,467 copies for a quadruple A side was pretty bad.
Her albums sell well but her singles sell poorly (mostly less than 100 000).
This means she has no staying power.

[LacusClyne]

bad sales for ayu....both singles are out of 20 top

but, i see Erika's 'taiyou no uta' very strong!!! no 9!!! she will keep going!!!

[freedreamer]

Whoa!...Koda is not first single girl anymore...tats shocking to me...

O well, Ayu ganbatte next year..

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by Kingofpop

I doubt Koda will ever be considered queen as she will never outsell Ayu's total record sales of 46 000 000 records so far.

Uhmmm, no because being Queen just doesn't mean you sell the most. Ayu's released a lot + she released during the peak era of CD sales. Namie is definietely considered a Queen of J-pop yet her CD sales are about 60% of Ayu's. Matsutoya Yuming, Seiko Matsuda (etc.) don't match Ayu's ~45m yet their still J-pop Queens.

Anyways, my point is that there really isn't only 1 single "J-pop Queen"; there's a bunch of them representing their own time periods/eras.

Originally Posted by Kingofpop

Ayu's popularity is slowly rising again anyway

Bold & Delicious/Pride: 132,993
Startin' / Born To Be...: 188,551
BLUE BIRD: 258,566 (Still charting)
Jewel/1love: well i'm sure it will outsell BLUE BIRD

Well obviously it would rise, it would've been hard to sell lower than Bold & Delicious/Pride since it was released 6 weeks before the album. As for BLUE BIRD, you could say her popularity is going up with it, but another reason could be that the songs were just a lot better (to the Japanese public) than the Startin' single was and also there were 3 covers instead of the regular 2. Btw, it's not charting anymore, it dropped out of the TOP 200 ~2 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by Kingofpop

Her albums sell well but her singles sell poorly (mostly less than 100 000).
This means she has no staying power.

After 'secret', she's had 8 non limited singles of which 7 made it past 100k. And I don't see how not selling singles = no staying power. How about Otsuka Ai? Her singles don't sell that much either, and her albums do pretty well yet she's staying strong for at least 2.5 years.

[Neo Daydream]

well at least ayu's album is #6... *shrugs*

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

Uhmmm, no because being Queen just doesn't mean you sell the most. Ayu's released a lot + she released during the peak era of CD sales. Namie is definietely considered a Queen of J-pop yet her CD sales are about 60% of Ayu's. Matsutoya Yuming, Seiko Matsuda (etc.) don't match Ayu's ~45m yet their still J-pop Queens.

Anyways, my point is that there really isn't only 1 single "J-pop Queen"; there's a bunch of them representing their own time periods/eras.


Well obviously it would rise, it would've been hard to sell lower than Bold & Delicious/Pride since it was released 6 weeks before the album. As for BLUE BIRD, you could say her popularity is going up with it, but another reason could be that the songs were just a lot better (to the Japanese public) than the Startin' single was and also there were 3 covers instead of the regular 2. Btw, it's not charting anymore, it dropped out of the TOP 200 ~2 weeks ago.


After 'secret', she's had 8 non limited singles of which 7 made it past 100k. And I don't see how not selling singles = no staying power. How about Otsuka Ai? Her singles don't sell that much either, and her albums do pretty well yet she's staying strong for at least 2.5 years.

I would make a comeback to all of this, but it is just to long and I can't be bothered. The point is, Ayu's career will continue forward and so will otsuka's most likely, but Koda will start to slip in the second half of 2007 unless she can do something miraculous, everyone is already getting sick of how she uses sex to sell records. I can't even believe anyone even finds her beautiful, I agree with otsuka when she called her Vulgar and disgusting.

[XFER]

Originally Posted by Kingofpop

I agree with otsuka when she called her Vulgar and disgusting.

Ai Otsuka called Koda, vulgar and disgusting??? ouch!

[alt.total-loser]

Geez. People actually buy Otsuka's stuff. >__> That kind of saddens me.

[ayu1m]

What's wrong with Ai




she's better than Kuu

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by Kingofpop

I would make a comeback to all of this, but it is just to long and I can't be bothered. The point is, Ayu's career will continue forward and so will otsuka's most likely, but Koda will start to slip in the second half of 2007 unless she can do something miraculous, everyone is already getting sick of how she uses sex to sell records. I can't even believe anyone even finds her beautiful, I agree with otsuka when she called her Vulgar and disgusting.

I think I shouldn't be bothered to make a comeback as you actually believe Otsuka Ai called Koda Kumi "Vulgur and dusgusting".

Anyways, do you have sufficient proof that "everyone is already getting sick of how she uses sex to sell records."? The last time I checked, Yume no Uta/Futari de... had very little sex appeal in the PVs and in the covers.

And how about "The point is...Koda will start to slip in the second half of 2007..."? Please, you're making yourself sound like you can actually tell the future.

About the "I can't even believe anyone even finds her beautiful..." part, each person has a different perception of what "beauty" is.

[~X2RADialbomber~]

I think we should all keep our own bad opinions about other artists to ourselves. It's not fair to people who actually like the artists!

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

I think I shouldn't be bothered to make a comeback as you actually believe Otsuka Ai called Koda Kumi "Vulgur and dusgusting".

Anyways, do you have sufficient proof that "everyone is already getting sick of how she uses sex to sell records."? The last time I checked, Yume no Uta/Futari de... had very little sex appeal in the PVs and in the covers.

And how about "The point is...Koda will start to slip in the second half of 2007..."? Please, you're making yourself sound like you can actually tell the future.

About the "I can't even believe anyone even finds her beautiful..." part, each person has a different perception of what "beauty" is.

Hmm... my arn't you condescending, I wont even dignify this with a response to your ill informed information/knowledge.