[CHINESE TABLOIDS] Koda Kumi cannot get big crowds like Ayumi

[AyuGAME]

whatever...ayu is ayu...kuu is kuu...
for me ayu is the best...for the others..i dont know

[Aisha_Angel]

ehh, I dunno; I kind of don't think avex has too much confidence in Koda as far as arena-stadium touring. I think that's why they put her in smaller venues. And I guess mostly because there is kind of only so much a visual conceptor can do with songs that kind of talk about the same things..."do me like this...do me like that" you know the typical style of today's mainstream music. I guess that's why they give artists like Ayu the bigger venues simply because she has more to say and people really wanna hear it. There will probably come a time where avex will dig deep in their pockets and give Kuu the arena tour her fans think she deserves but I don't think they'll get the same feelings they would get from *heart-reaching* artists like Ayu. They kind of put a lot into their performances.

I will say this though, I believe the bigger the tour the harder you have to work at staying in shape. It's more than singing, it's dancing, acting and reaching out. You have to do that every day even when you just don't feel like it. So maybe that's another factor as to why Kuu doesn't get those big venues: maybe she's not physically/emotionally prepared for that?

[LacusClyne]

Originally Posted by gishimura

can c that ayumi 1 person can make it 50,000
n koda + SMAP only reach 55,000
so thats mean each of them only get 27,500

you should not really compare like this. kuu is just to see one song. while, SMAP did the whole performance.

but, anyway, i'm curious to see the both of them dancing. it's says they are dancing a hot dance.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by gishimura

can c that ayumi 1 person can make it 50,000
n koda + SMAP only reach 55,000
so thats mean each of them only get 27,500

lol, not really. These figures I am assuming are combined figures from an entire tour. So that 50,000 is a combo of all the arenas Ayu played on her last tour. (I'm not saying their numbers are accurate though.) Whereas that 55,000 for SMAP and a duet w/ Kumi is 55,000 for one concert date. Trust me SMAP holds concerts in much larger venues than Ayu does - they easily fill up football stadiums.

[Psychotic_X]

who says Koda isn't heart reaching...?

This is only Koda's 2nd tour... It'd be a major jump from Zepp to Arena/Stadium tours... They are increasing her venues as time goes on so they can see what she's capable of...

This is what Ayu's 303593879484th Tour.... She's been around of over a decade and over the years she acculmulated a tonne of loyal fans within Japan and internationally... That's why she has such large tours... Also the amount of money Avex puts into her tours are immense... Look at her stage designs... She is number #1 in Japan.. And she's been there for awhile...

This article is a load of *******... Where are their facts?! If it was an article about Ayu having an affair or seeing a psychiatrist then its fake... But Ayu being able to pull 50k people and Koda only being able to get 15k is a load of ****...

You can't compare them... Koda recently got big and Avex hasn't given her the chance to pull in 50k people... Give Koda some time.... In a few years she'll be reeling in people... She's reeling them in now with her current tour... Yeah not as much as Ayu but she's got a smaller venue...

Don't go on about not being emotionally prepared or physically prepared... Koda is more than physically prepared that Ayu... She dances rather than just stand there and sing and move a bit here and there....

[mishidabo]

she may not get the crowds now.. but she is getting the sales ^^

[ayu_fan929]

^
^I agree. This is just her 2nd nation wide tour. Last year it was Zepp tours and I don't think she even did 10 shows of those. This year, the venues are slightly larger (hall tours) and she's like 40+ shows in this concert. Maybe after this one, avex might schedule a larger (arena) tour for her.

Originally Posted by gishimura

can c that ayumi 1 person can make it 50,000
n koda + SMAP only reach 55,000
so thats mean each of them only get 27,500

I think you're confused. It's not "SMAP + Kuu" = 55,000. Kuu was just a surprise guest at one of SMAP's concert. SMAP can easily outsell Ayu in tour tickets.

Originally Posted by Aisha_Angel

I guess mostly because there is kind of only so much a visual conceptor can do with songs that kind of talk about the same things..."do me like this...do me like that" you know the typical style of today's mainstream music. I guess that's why they give artists like Ayu the bigger venues simply because she has more to say and people really wanna hear it.

There is absolutely no relation/connection between "the songs that kind of talk about the same things" and the size of a venue.

[alternarist]

Koda Kumi can only attract men..

[Yukitora]

^actually most of her fanbase are women >_>

Just like the Pussycat Dolls are advertised for girls.

[immel]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

lol, not really. These figures I am assuming are combined figures from an entire tour. So that 50,000 is a combo of all the arenas Ayu played on her last tour. (I'm not saying their numbers are accurate though.) Whereas that 55,000 for SMAP and a duet w/ Kumi is 55,000 for one concert date. Trust me SMAP holds concerts in much larger venues than Ayu does - they easily fill up football stadiums.

The funny things about tabloids (which makes me not like them very much) is that you always have to try to figure out how much of the information in the is actually useable, by yourself. It gets pretty annoying . Also you realize that in the end, what information you have use of is that Ayu draws bigger crowds than Koda ... not really news.

[LacusClyne]

Originally Posted by alternarist

Koda Kumi can only attract men..

lol....only men??? then what am i???? damm alternarist(takes a toy hammer and start wacking)
more and more girls in japan are looking up to kuu and trying to imitatie her dress style. i got a whole load of japanese magazine to show for that. and they like kuu for her cute lyrics, which makes them feel happy.

back on topic, kuu had a closer image. but let's not forget that she just started having tours and more attention this 2 years. keep this in mind that ayu started Poker Face quite smoothly, and had more fans from the start. while, kuu's career on the other hand is just starting, you can't expect a company to throw big cash now.

[alt.total-loser]

Originally Posted by alternarist

Koda Kumi can only attract men..

You must be joking.

[truehappiness]

I'm too used to Ayu's concerts LOL

Seeing other people wearing one costume for the whole concert.. x.x

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by alternarist

Koda Kumi can only attract men..

Well it just shows how little knowledge you have on this topic.

[Psychotic_X]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I'm too used to Ayu's concerts LOL

Seeing other people wearing one costume for the whole concert.. x.x

who's that?! All the concerts I've seen artists wear 3/4 outfits rather than change after every single song...

[realize_!]

Originally Posted by Psychotic_X

Don't go on about not being emotionally prepared or physically prepared... Koda is more than physically prepared that Ayu... She dances rather than just stand there and sing and move a bit here and there....

She may dance, but is she THAT entertaining? sadly, .

Don't get me wrong though kuu's amazing.if you start flaming me *shakes fist*

Originally Posted by Psychotic_X

who's that?! All the concerts I've seen artists wear 3/4 outfits rather than change after every single song...

yes kuu changes, so does namie, hitomi(shimatani) + others but they are not as dramatic and colorful as ayu's. thats my take on it which is why I prefer ayu's concerts in general. her costumes are fun (may not be the best but, fun), and everything about her stage presense is entertaining. She knows how to cheer an audience.

[Psychotic_X]

Originally Posted by realize_!

She may dance, but is she THAT entertaining? sadly, .

Don't get me wrong though kuu's amazing.if you start flaming me *shakes fist*



yes kuu changes, so does namie, hitomi(shimatani) + others but they are not as dramatic and colorful as ayu's. thats my take on it which is why I prefer ayu's concerts in general. her costumes are fun (may not be the best but, fun), and everything about her stage presense is entertaining. She knows how to cheer an audience.

Yes she is entertaining... she's an awesome performer and she really works a crowd..

Yes well not all artists get GIGANTIC stages where they can come out of a flower or go flying around in cages 100m in the air.... You can't compare Kuu and Ayu or Ayu to any other artist... Obviously Ayu's concerts are going to be more visually impressive... Her stage designs and everything is so awesome... but yeah she gets a tonne of cash into it thats why....

[realize_!]

Originally Posted by Psychotic_X

Yes she is entertaining... she's an awesome performer and she really works a crowd..

Oh well then different strokes for different folks, I can barely finish her concerts.

[immel]

It's been pretty quiet on "Ayu vs. Koda" or "I like/don't like her" discussions lately, I guess it's all getting unloaded now.

[realize_!]

Originally Posted by immel

It's been pretty quiet on "Ayu vs. Koda" or "I like/don't like her" discussions lately, I guess it's all getting unloaded now.

I don't mind the discussion it's just people are so ****in over dramatic about it! They won't rest until one or the other gives up.