What's the idea of release singles after albums? - Page 3 - Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai
Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai
· Ayu's Official Site · Ayu's twitter · Ayu's YouTube · masa's translations · Misa-chan's translations ·


Go Back   Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai > Music Forums > General Music Chat

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 16th October 2006, 12:55 PM
immel's Avatar
immel immel is offline
MY ALL Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edinburgh, United Kingdom
Posts: 12,889
^I've been a pirate for... 2 years.

@TH - Haha, no, but the record companies are way too greedy.

The production cost of one CD or a DVD is around 1ct.
__________________
Please Stop Requesting Uploads Via PM!

martinstark.net - ayuready? episodes - facebook - twitter
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 16th October 2006, 12:59 PM
truehappiness's Avatar
truehappiness truehappiness is offline
ANGEL'S SONG H-Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Anaheim, California
Posts: 35,493
Oh well.

I forgive you because of your spending 1500USD on Ayu <3
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 16th October 2006, 01:06 PM
Mad_Cactuar Mad_Cactuar is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Malaysia.
Posts: 6,442
Oh noes. Not piracy. Immilk has gone to the dark side.

I guess its ok if you buy what you downloaded and loved. Not burn the stuff to the CD and live happily.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 16th October 2006, 01:09 PM
immel's Avatar
immel immel is offline
MY ALL Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edinburgh, United Kingdom
Posts: 12,889
I never burn stuff, I keep it on my HDD until I'm tired of it, lol.

I wonder how long I'll keep my 350Gb of Ayu stuff ... of which I own physical copies of most of it anyway.
__________________
Please Stop Requesting Uploads Via PM!

martinstark.net - ayuready? episodes - facebook - twitter
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 16th October 2006, 01:20 PM
truehappiness's Avatar
truehappiness truehappiness is offline
ANGEL'S SONG H-Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Anaheim, California
Posts: 35,493
For reals, immeljan.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 16th October 2006, 01:59 PM
extepan's Avatar
extepan extepan is offline
Mirror Initiate
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 12,337
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~X2RADialbomber~ View Post
To promote the album, of course.
exactly. it is hoped that singles can sustain the sales of the album.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 17th October 2006, 02:43 AM
gakkun's Avatar
gakkun gakkun is offline
ayu-ro mix 2 Initiate
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,925
Quote:
Originally Posted by immel View Post
^I've been a pirate for... 2 years.

@TH - Haha, no, but the record companies are way too greedy.

The production cost of one CD or a DVD is around 1ct.

the prodcution cost of that cd maybe 1ct but what the about the cost of producing the album/tour on the cd?? It's different from buying an empty disc. I don't want to speak for record companies but too many people fall into the mindset that they are buying a 'disc' as opposed to a disc with content on it.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 17th October 2006, 02:45 AM
immel's Avatar
immel immel is offline
MY ALL Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edinburgh, United Kingdom
Posts: 12,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by gakkun View Post
the prodcution cost of that cd maybe 1ct but what the about the cost of producing the album/tour on the cd?? It's different from buying an empty disc. I don't want to speak for record companies but too many people fall into the mindset that they are buying a 'disc' as opposed to a disc with content on it.
Yeah, I know, I just had to say that. And what costs the absolutely most money is the promoting of the release.
__________________
Please Stop Requesting Uploads Via PM!

martinstark.net - ayuready? episodes - facebook - twitter
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 17th October 2006, 04:50 AM
slashess's Avatar
slashess slashess is offline
monochrome Initiate
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In a small town...
Posts: 721
well...I believe...

because the albums over in Japan are a lot more expensive there than they are here in America. We do have singles here in America but we don't really take time to promote them because they're only like 6 dollars and albums are about 15 dollars, so yeah.

And in Japan the singles are about 10 dollars and the albums are about 25 dollars, and perhaps someone wants a single more than an album as well (like for instance, someone only liked Poker Face from A song for XX but didnt like any of the other songs promoted)

thats what I think

ps: I thought the CDs in Japan were Super Expensive compared to americans' cds.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 17th October 2006, 05:31 AM
immel's Avatar
immel immel is offline
MY ALL Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edinburgh, United Kingdom
Posts: 12,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by slashess View Post
ps: I thought the CDs in Japan were Super Expensive compared to americans' cds.
In relation, they are... they cost more than 200% more, which is sick.
__________________
Please Stop Requesting Uploads Via PM!

martinstark.net - ayuready? episodes - facebook - twitter
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 17th October 2006, 04:00 PM
kotora's Avatar
kotora kotora is offline
Because of You Initiate
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 5,517
I like western selling CD method way much better than japan. (Sorry, I only like white thing ^_^).
__________________


Put my mouth on the lyrics like CPR

Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 17th October 2006, 04:03 PM
Mad_Cactuar Mad_Cactuar is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Malaysia.
Posts: 6,442
At least Japanese CDs come with obi strips. Maybe that's the stuff making CDs in Japan super expensive.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 17th October 2006, 04:10 PM
Keishi's Avatar
Keishi Keishi is offline
Will Initiate
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: dreamworld.
Posts: 8,493
Why would obi strips make it expensive? XD
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 17th October 2006, 04:18 PM
Mad_Cactuar Mad_Cactuar is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Malaysia.
Posts: 6,442
Any other explanation? I did notice Japanese album/single covers tend to be thicker and more durable than Western CD covers. For example, I saw the CD single for "Shake It Off" for sale once. One was Japanese and it was RM89 while the normal US one was RM32. The Japanese one looked real tough as the cover was like an album cover. The US one was a normal thin single cover. Have you seen a Western single cover though?
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 17th October 2006, 09:53 PM
Princess_Of_Roses Princess_Of_Roses is offline
no more words Initiate
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ~wherever the army takes us~
Posts: 2,816
I dont see how this works... BEcuase they release the single then the album..EVERYONE loves the single goes and buys the album..

they release another single..people already have the album so releasing another single isnt necessary unless the few who didnt buy the album when the first single came out.
__________________

~KUMI KODA LOVE~

Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 17th October 2006, 09:57 PM
immel's Avatar
immel immel is offline
MY ALL Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edinburgh, United Kingdom
Posts: 12,889
Well, however weird it may see, it does work.

Releasing a single in the US puts the artist in the spotlight, releasing an album does not.

The single will be played on MTV and radio, the word will spread if the song is good, and the album will sell.

Then they release the next single, the style of it might appeal to more people, the word spreads again, and more people will buy it.

In Japan they use the singles as a sort of preparation for a climax that will come, both ways seem to work for their respective markets. And even though the prices for CDs in Japan is around 200% higher than in the US, the percentage of people that buy records is higher, or equal to, the sales in the US.

And so on. I guess, only speculating.
__________________
Please Stop Requesting Uploads Via PM!

martinstark.net - ayuready? episodes - facebook - twitter
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 18th October 2006, 02:16 AM
Mad_Cactuar Mad_Cactuar is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Malaysia.
Posts: 6,442
Quote:
Originally Posted by immel View Post
Then they release the next single, the style of it might appeal to more people, the word spreads again, and more people will buy it.
Exactly. That's why US singles are often different even from the same album. It's to appeal to a different market each time. So with probably 3 different genres, they get the attention of 3 different markets.

Look at Kelly Clarkson's sophomore album. It had 6 singles and all of them were quite different within one another. And the album sold more than 4 million copies in the US alone...
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 18th October 2006, 02:20 AM
immel's Avatar
immel immel is offline
MY ALL Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edinburgh, United Kingdom
Posts: 12,889
Diversity is the key, with that kind of marketing... and of course, the songs need to be good. Heh.

I wonder. I believe the US system is better, but in Japan music is so much more, it's everywhere... every single huge company has one or the larger artists attached to it, and their music and faces is everywhere. Everything got tie-ins, wherever you go or look you can never avoid to see or hear the latest music from the hottest artists. In the US artists aren't as popular to be used as promotion machines, even though it's done.
__________________
Please Stop Requesting Uploads Via PM!

martinstark.net - ayuready? episodes - facebook - twitter
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 18th October 2006, 02:27 AM
Mad_Cactuar Mad_Cactuar is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Malaysia.
Posts: 6,442
Yeah that I realized too. Even camera's and various edible products get their own tie-ins. In the US, nothing of that sort has happened on a large scale. I only know Gwen Stefani designed some camera, but it didn't have a tie-in. Maybe songs get overplayed in the US anyway, so they don't put songs attached.

However, I don't believe star power in the US isn't enough to promote products. Surely there's something holding artistes and companies back.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 18th October 2006, 02:36 AM
truehappiness's Avatar
truehappiness truehappiness is offline
ANGEL'S SONG H-Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Anaheim, California
Posts: 35,493
I think that with 'tie-ins' and the US.. people seem to connect that with 'selling out' or something.

It's stopped many from doing endorsements, I'd imagine..
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.