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Old 28th June 2010, 07:30 PM
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^OMG thanks Misa-chan! I think in Max's twitter peopel were sayign him bad things like he didn't do enought or that he is childish or sth... poor max...
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Old 28th June 2010, 07:40 PM
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I feel sooooo bad for Max that my heart is breaking; I hate people putting some sort of blame on him when he's done nothing wrong! They keep putting him in difficult positions and it's not fair on him at all because he IS only human.

I'm glad Ayu brought this to our attention, I adore her for it, because now we can let Max now that not all fans merely tweet him to hassle him, but that there are genuine kind tweets as well! She's got such a kind heart for feeling it so closely, and because she cares so much for Max! I'm glad she's brought this up, but I'm definitely sad that it's come to a point where its hurting her so much.
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Old 28th June 2010, 07:49 PM
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my favorite photos are of ayu with that t-shirt and red lipstick! she looks so cool! but she looks pretty as usual in all of these pictures!
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Old 28th June 2010, 07:52 PM
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And I must agree with most people here; that black outfit, those sunglasses, the red lipstick, it all makes up such an awesome and kickass look for her! I LOVE it!
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Old 28th June 2010, 08:01 PM
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I feel sorry for Max matuura, even not knowing what people said, ver sad. I liked all the outfits ayu has weared. she has such a good feeling of fashion. i am so curious why she is in HongKong
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Old 28th June 2010, 08:40 PM
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Tohoshinki fans are spoiled ^^ Just because they can actually communicate with Max that doesn't give them the right to say **** to/about him. It's not like it's his fault their precious boyband disbanded. The man has done everything he could to keep them together...
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Old 28th June 2010, 09:21 PM
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Tohoshinki fans are spoiled ^^ Just because they can actually communicate with Max that doesn't give them the right to say **** to/about him. It's not like it's his fault their precious boyband disbanded. The man has done everything he could to keep them together...
Yeah, absolutely! And he had expressed plenty of regret when they disbanded and they should know it has nothing to do with him, that if they wanted they could've remained signed to Avex but it wasn't just up to him, it was about the five members and maybe their other company also.

I hate it when people forget that others have feelings too.
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Tohoshinki fans are spoiled ^^ Just because they can actually communicate with Max that doesn't give them the right to say **** to/about him. It's not like it's his fault their precious boyband disbanded. The man has done everything he could to keep them together...
this concludes everything perfectly
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Old 28th June 2010, 09:28 PM
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Ayu looks like a goddess. A goddess of peace. Poor Max. I swear...
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tohoshinki disbanded? and the fans blame max? that is stupid XD
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it's not max's fault at all, just tohoshinki's and SM's..
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Old 28th June 2010, 10:59 PM
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blossom pv! Lots of pink flowers! Yeah! Hong Kong! Yeah!

Nah, Idk. Guess we'll see.
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Old 28th June 2010, 11:33 PM
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Looking forward for the "blossom" PV! And I think, usually during this time, she does photoshoots for the upcoming calendar, this one's for 2011...
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Old 29th June 2010, 12:22 AM
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Attacking Masa just because you have no other outlet to vent your anger and sadness, I beg you, please stop. Even though he doesn't want to know about it, there is no way that he can't know it. That is Masa's position. And because he knows everything, it's making him cry. He is just like us. We are all hurt, but we don't give up hope, right?

Wow, sounds really serious. o_0
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Tohoshinki fans are spoiled ^^ Just because they can actually communicate with Max that doesn't give them the right to say **** to/about him. It's not like it's his fault their precious boyband disbanded. The man has done everything he could to keep them together...
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tohoshinki disbanded? and the fans blame max? that is stupid XD
They didn't disband yet. They just stopped their activities as 5 members together. So they didn't stop forever. There are still 3 members active with Avex as a new unit, JYJ (Junsu, Yuchun, Jejung). Just to get that right.
Also, there have been international THSK forums that had projects to send support messages to Matsuura to show their gratefulness to all he has done. Of course, positive things like this never get attention, only negative things get shared. I just want to say that there are always fans that take news better than others. You have fans who give their support and fans who blame everyone. Just take a better look at this forum and you'll see Ayu has these fans too. I think Ayu would be really hurt if she ever found this forum and read all the comments here. And sometimes I'm happy that Ayu can't read all her tweets, because some of them would really hurt her too.
Ayu fans aren't spoiled? TA acted kind of 'childish' too when they found out that Ayu started to tweet. She even had to write a message with apologies to TA. If I remember well, a lot of fans here 'hated' TA for this and said that she didn't need to apologize for her having a twitter account.
But I do agree that Matsuura and Chiba (CSO) did everything they could for THSK. Chiba even went to Korea to talk with SME (their Korean label). If fans want to blame someone it should be SME, but how can Japanese fans blame the Korean label? Japanese fans are only familiar with Avex and can only contact Avex managers (example, oil spoil.. the CEO of the company gets all the blame, not the people who really made the mistake). It's the responsibility of the CEO to stand tall, but I know Matsuura is a human too and he really cares about the boys. But he is also CEO and people always blame the responsible person.
But do not think that all THSK fans leave bad comments.

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it's not max's fault at all, just tohoshinki's and SM's..
No, it's only SME's fault. I think every person has the right to ask for changements in their contracts. The members signed their contracts when they were still teenagers. They just wanted to be singers and signed the contract because they might not get another contract. Know that all the members, except for the youngest Changmin, lived in the countryside of Korea (read: poor side of Korea). They left their homes at a really young age to go to Seoul and to earn money. They all worked while training to be a singer. A bit similar to Ayu's story. They didn't know they would be so popular in Korea right from their debut. They worked 6 years with the same conditions (read: getting almost no money from their activities in both Korea and Japan. Money from Japan first goes to SME). They signed a contract that says they have to work for 13 years under the same conditions. Like no activities outside their group no allowed by SME are forbidden (acting and commercials). Don't forget that boys have to enroll into the army. Which makes it a contract of 16 years. Do you want to work 16 years under the same conditions with no promotions? I know I wouldn't. They can't leave the company, because that's illegal (breaking the contract = paying a sum that's to high for them to pay). Also, SME didn't want to change the contracts. The only way out is a lawsuit which can break or change the contract legally. I don't blame the members for starting a lawsuit to get things settled officially. It's their basic right as humans.
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Aww... That's so nice... Why do we really need to talk about Tohoshinki's crisis when Ayu's really having a fun time in Hong Kong?!

(By the way, it's 8:37 a.m. in the morning in Hong Kong on Tuesday... I hope Ayu had a good sleep there...)
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Those comments shouldn't have been sent to Max, he has nothing to do with their disbandment. But please guys remember that not every TVXQ fan is like that, so please don't generalize.
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Old 28th June 2010, 11:57 PM
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Those comments shouldn't have been sent to Max, he has nothing to do with their disbandment. But please guys remember that not every TVXQ fan is like that, so please don't generalize.
No no! Don't get me wrong! I don't mean their fans particularly; I'm talking fanatics in general. Fanatics take things out on all the wrong people when stuff goes wrong and it's really not fair on them.

I find it so odd that of all people they'd go to Max to begin with; it's not a problem with Avex, it was things with SM and amongst the five members.

I love Ayu for bringing this up though; she's got a good heart!
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Old 28th June 2010, 11:43 PM
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^of course not, they are just some! And even more, ayu didn't specified "tohoshinki fans"... I'm sure Max gets more disgusting messages regarding other issues other than TVXQ!
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^waaa!! soo nice!!!
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