[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread of Sunrise/Sunset ～LOVE is ALL～ -starting over-

[bluegie]

Originally Posted by KarenPang

then again NINKI's never accurate at all . If it's true that All the BEST ! can clear 575K or maybe even higher than that no. in the 1st week , I think they can get the #1 spot for the singles , albums & DVD Oricon charts at no sweat (they already did for the singles & DVD Oricon charts anyway right now at this point in time)

I dun think you get the wrong idea, but it seems to me that you're directly translating NINKI's index into sales figure (yeah I'm confused about the sentence I bold above). NINKI is never meant to be a sales NUMBER indicator. It's just a suvery to see how the oricon members feel about the particular single (or album). If the value is high, it really just means people tend to favor that cd. I never use NINKI to judge the sales figure. Instead, I use it to judge how the general public, or at least the members in oricon, reacts towards the song/album.

Originally Posted by Yagami Raito

In fact, most of the Japanese doesn't know anything about the sales ! Even the TA members don't check the sales figure..

...

I was gonna reply to ayu-marco's msg but you do me a favor .

I dun think the comments made on amazon.jp or other websites were done after the sales figures were up. In fact I believe they existed even before the cd was released. Also, a low budget pv doesn't equal to a poorly executed one. For instance, GREEN (and even Mirrorcle World) looks more expensive than Days, but I believe many of us love Days over that damn guy's directed pv. Looking back to her older pvs like evolution, M, appears, etc., I dun think they use high budgets, but the executions are great, make them really nice pvs.

The last point from marco is correct. The Japanese economy is bad, and ayu is not a power seller anymore, so I actually think the sales are decent.

But I still think the single is still at ayu's lower standard... (yeah just an opinion.. no need to battle lol).

[KarenPang]

Originally Posted by bluegie

I dun think you get the wrong idea, but it seems to me that you're directly translating NINKI's index into sales figure (yeah I'm confused about the sentence I bold above). NINKI is never meant to be a sales NUMBER indicator. It's just a suvery to see how the oricon members feel about the particular single (or album). If the value is high, it really just means people tend to favor that cd. I never use NINKI to judge the sales figure. Instead, I use it to judge how the general public, or at least the members in oricon, reacts towards the song/album.

yeah sorry I do know that NINKI figures doesn't equal to actual sales that a single/album will get in due time

I'm just saying that's all

but anyway oh wow I didn't realise how much hatred S/S has receive o_O

am I the only 1 who like the single ? except for the terrible covers , I'm pleased with what ayumi had to offer & the PVs are fine even though it's more subtle/subduced if you were to compare her previous summer PVs

[Ayumiko]

Originally Posted by bluegie

Also, a low budget pv doesn't equal to a poorly executed one. For instance, GREEN (and even Mirrorcle World) looks more expensive than Days, but I believe many of us love Days over that damn guy's directed pv. Looking back to her older pvs like evolution, M, appears, etc., I dun think they use high budgets, but the executions are great, make them really nice pvs.

This.

Green and MW pvs indeed looks expensive and a lot going on in the pvs that they don't look boring to watch...but they were poorly executed. Such a waste. I still can't get over the glass breaking part in MW where we only got a fierce look and no glass breaking. It could of been epic.

[Yagami Raito]

Thanks for the up !
Well the drop is okay, but I hope the sales wil remain around 8,000 during the weekend...

[ayumisrael]

Yay!!

I expected less than 6,000 for today and it's still #1.
ayu assured another #1. =D

Hopefully from now on the drops won't be major.
Thanks! ^^

It still outsells talkin' 2 myself's 3 days total.
If it won't drop below 5,000 tomorrow it might outsell it (it will though who am I joking? xD)

[untitledforayu]

Hmm...that's not too bad a drop i guess. still...

She needs to take a break. Such high exposure in Japan over such a long period of time is obviously going to make a lot of people get sick of her.

Hopefully the weekend will boost sales a bit

[bluegie]

Originally Posted by untitledforayu

Hmm...that's not too bad a drop i guess. still...

She needs to take a break. Such high exposure in Japan over such a long period of time is obviously going to make a lot of people get sick of her.

Hopefully the weekend will boost sales a bit

Actually her exposure are not that high. For a pop act, it's normal to release about 2 - 3 singles and probly an album per year. Her overexposure time was back between 2001 - 2002.

The problem for ayu rite now is that she has been in the industry for so long that general public are bored of her.

Below is my opinion.. I agree that she doesn't really act like her age (some of the times). I wished she would going back to her mature style, which was around 2004 - 2005 (I just love her mature look in STEP you and fairyland.. the make up and stuff...). There's another problem... the current style or direction she goes for looks kinda weird. Well, right now I still read her news, listen to her song, all because she's ayu, the singer I've been following for 10 years. I do hope she'll pop up something new that will wow the whole world.

[Yagami Raito]

Originally Posted by bluegie

Below is my opinion.. I agree that she doesn't really act like her age (some of the times). I wished she would going back to her mature style, which was around 2004 - 2005 (I just love her mature look in STEP you and fairyland.. the make up and stuff...). There's another problem... the current style or direction she goes for looks kinda weird. Well, right now I still read her news, listen to her song, all because she's ayu, the singer I've been following for 10 years. I do hope she'll pop up something new that will wow the whole world.

I think you've just pointed out the right thing ! She will appeal a larger audience d(^_^)

[ayumisrael]

It was just a 30% or around drop.

I wonder if the drama yesterday made it not to drop by 50%+ (even though it just aired on 9 PM)?

x->1->1->1 - Hamasaki Ayumi - 36,552 + 12,873 + 8,104 = 57,529
x->2->2->3 - Morning Musume. - 23,301 + 10,946 + 4,784 = 39,031

Morning Musume are #3 today.

Their fans' plans have been crushed, I just hope not a lot of people bought the same single in the 4 versions a lot of times.

[AMANDABYNES]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

It was just a 30% or around drop.

I wonder if the drama yesterday made it not to drop by 50%+ (even though it just aired on 9 PM)?

x->1->1->1 - Hamasaki Ayumi - 36,552 + 12,873 + 8,104 = 57,529
x->2->2->3 - Morning Musume. - 23,301 + 10,946 + 4,784 = 39,031

Morning Musume are #3 today.

Their fans' plans have been crushed, I just hope not a lot of people bought the same single in the 4 versions a lot of times.

Most stores would be closed when the drama ended so probably that wasnt it.

I guess this shows all the extra versions really help! She should have had 3 different versions with many remixs like the last single.

[TITANIC]

still hoping 1st week sales better than 1st week BnD

[Lanz16]

Thanks goodness!
Not-so-big drop this time but B'Z is now close to S/S!
Thanks for the update!

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by Lanz16

Thanks goodness!
Not-so-big drop this time but B'Z is now close to S/S!
Thanks for the update!

Yes but not in total.
They would need to sell at least 55,000 more copies this week to get another #1 week and it's impossible for them.
xD

[waterballoon]

... I'm saddened by the singles my favorite singers have released. They are all so good (3 SPLASH, Halation, Sunrise)... they deserve more than what they are.

[njanjayrp]

Well this is ok, hopefully the sales will have a slight increase after Music Station and I am really hoping the weekend won't go below 7k. So much about Momosu getting #1 lol

[miskiq]

hope her next single wont have a horrible cover like this one

[brener]

Originally Posted by miskiq

hope her next single wont have a horrible cover like this one

agree with you...

[sanzo2011]

I hope she'll have better sales after performing on MS ( but i won't expect too much ~~!)

[ayumisrael]

I saw MS' performance and it was amazing!
The audience had so much energy and even some screams. XDDD
The stage was circle and the audience sorrounded her!
Her vocals were better than past performances I think excpet for some off keys in the choruses.

[tetsuo69]

well even im getting sick of the same lives with her + her dancer..... it gets really boring T__T