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Old 4th December 2008, 04:33 PM
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Really? Her vibratos were kind of dull (and barely were there...)

As for me her vibratos since 2004 are the best vibratos ever, I just love it when she makes them long and exaggerated XD. It gives her voice a great quality.

I think she moves her mouth that it will be more convinient to make it or just a habit. Most of the singers who do vibratos well I saw them doing it.
It's better to have vibratto that is not so in your face noticeable - if there is too much it really takes away from the song and often times hers is overkill.

Most pop singers do the mouth moving thing for the visual effect but usually during vocals lessons teachers teach you not to move your mouth actually. Check out really trained singers - opera for example. In Akikawa Masafune's performances his mouth barely moves, it's done completely in his throat - that's true vibratto.
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Old 4th December 2008, 07:39 AM
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i find it very cool when she ends her songs like that, with or without moving her mouth
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Old 4th December 2008, 08:31 AM
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well, I heard that her way of singing is like traditional Japanese singer,, that always end every line with high pitch and vibration,,
but,, about that mouth, I don't really know.. Maybe it's a habit like Namie always pull the mic down when she wants to sing in high pitch..
I don't really like it,, and I often made jokes about it,,, XD
she should use her old fashioned way of singing...
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Old 4th December 2008, 08:38 AM
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I don't mind it myself, but my friends always make fun of it >__< Like they'd visit me while I have Ayu on, and they copy her vibrato xD Stupid.

I wish she wouldn't do it that much in lives though. Like in Kiss o Kill AT07, the first very long, high "yell" she sings, she doesn't do it! That's just a clean, beautiful pitch!
But then for the rest she does do it.
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well, I heard that her way of singing is like traditional Japanese singer,, that always end every line with high pitch and vibration,,
but,, about that mouth, I don't really know.. Maybe it's a habit like Namie always pull the mic down when she wants to sing in high pitch..
I don't really like it,, and I often made jokes about it,,, XD
she should use her old fashioned way of singing...
Vibratto and enka singing are very different things. Also, moving your mouth is not needed to do vibratto but it does make it more emphasized (and therefore more annoying). What Namie does is what all trained singers do, you pull the mic down on louder or more piercing notes so that you don't kill your audience. Sometimes she pulls it too far away though - the idea is to pull it just far enough so that there isn't a major audible change in volume.
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Vibratto and enka singing are very different things. Also, moving your mouth is not needed to do vibratto but it does make it more emphasized (and therefore more annoying). What Namie does is what all trained singers do, you pull the mic down on louder or more piercing notes so that you don't kill your audience. Sometimes she pulls it too far away though - the idea is to pull it just far enough so that there isn't a major audible change in volume.
I wish Ayu did the pull mic down thing... sometimes on her piercing notes, she gets a little overwhelmingly loud. XDD;;;

I kinda like Ayu's vibrato. I think she does it for show.
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Ayu looks really professional when she does the vibrato thingy with her mouth. Especially when she sang HEAVEN and teens @AT06
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@SunshineSlayer : Oh,,, tnx for the information.. I barely knew about that
yeah, sometimes I thought Namie pulled the mic too far, I can't hear the voice..

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all the people that says that they don't like her vibrato

its a singing technic and helps to keep the note that the person is singing.


and believe me, if she didn't use vibrato, her voice would be like in her first album still... and also pretty boring and nasal


EDIT: remember the re-recording of the 3 songs from her first album for A BEST?? (A Song for XX, Trust and Depend on you) those songs sound 100% much better because of her new technic, aha! vibrato ^^
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I think it's more of a habit than anything. It can look more dramatic for her performances.

I don't mind it and see it as part of her performance
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I agree too!! She didn't move her mouth in her earlier singing but after I see her lie performance of JEWEL, I was shocked and smiled when she moving her mouth..
I think that helps her vibrato to make it more controllable, i think...
But I enjoy it and even do it also..
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I think that helps her vibrato to make it more controllable, i think...
But I enjoy it and even do it also..
Actually it makes it more uncontrolled. Her vibratto has been pretty out of control for a few years now.
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Actually it makes it more uncontrolled. Her vibratto has been pretty out of control for a few years now.
Really??? Maybe I was the only one who thinks about that!!

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you shouldn't move your mouth during vibrato, it is incorrect singing. Sorry to break it to you guys, but Ayu sings from her throat, not her stomach. So she has to compensate and make fake vibrato at times. The fact that she has been smoking and drinking since she turned 20 doesn't help, because I remember she didn't used to do it.
Really?? I also thought that I sing from my stomach because I feel it's moving but later my throats started to ache..
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Really?? I also thought that I sing from my stomach because I feel it's moving but later my throats started to ache..
You can press the sides of your throat under your chin with your fingers just hard enough for you to feel the muscles underneath moving and try singing. You will find singing high notes easier and the sound comes out stronger. That's cos it's preventing throat usage. Your stomach might actually ache a little if you do it for a few minutes (that's a good thing). But singers can't do that cos it will look stupid.

She's trying to hard to force the vibrato out IMO. I prefer her gentle vibratos in the past, now it's getting kinda unnecessary and unpleasant sounding. Guess she needs to find her comfortable place.
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Old 11th December 2008, 01:41 PM
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You can press the sides of your throat under your chin with your fingers just hard enough for you to feel the muscles underneath moving and try singing. You will find singing high notes easier and the sound comes out stronger. That's cos it's preventing throat usage. Your stomach might actually ache a little if you do it for a few minutes (that's a good thing). But singers can't do that cos it will look stupid.

She's trying to hard to force the vibrato out IMO. I prefer her gentle vibratos in the past, now it's getting kinda unnecessary and unpleasant sounding. Guess she needs to find her comfortable place.
I tried it and it did work with me... Thanks a lot!! Now all I have to do is practice it!!

I don't think ayu can go back to that old vibrato style...IMO as we age, our vocals changed also right?
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vibrato makes the song nicer..

jus imagine a Saxophone player plays without vibrato.. that's so weird.

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intially, i typed "vibrator" in the above sentence.. LOL
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i think it's cool i sing vibrato too, and sometimes my mouth moves, sometimes it doesn't...depends on the note (for me) and length...

lol i don't get how it annoys people...at least she doesn't do that annoying thing britney spears does...that crackly sound before she sings lower notes...THAT'S annoying...she sounds like The Grudge (not hating on britney, i still like her)
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hmm. smtimes I don't like it.. if she seems to be exaggerating a bit.
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I don't know ! but i think i'm the only person like that !
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Well now I think she has no choice but to use it..
She's been using it so long, I don't think she can change it.
Anyways, it makes dramatic effect at the end of songs... ahaha
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