You were.../BALLAD information thread [II]

[Maemi]

I want an international TA

EDIT: I hope the new covers will look like No way to say, or similar I also hoped for new fairyland covers, and we got nothing like that

[JackieRos]

Originally Posted by Maemi

I hope the new covers will look like No way to say

finally someone whos with me

i want it to be simple and wintery

[Mai82Go]

Even if they didn't translate the TA stuff, I would join. Isn't TA just restricted to people with a japanese address? I think that's the unfairness here. It should be open to everyone around the globe. You cannot except them to translate it to english or whatever language but to make the membership open to international fans is, imho, not that hard.

[Bigtop]

I really have confidence that she could reach #1, and here's why:

Earlier, we have talked about concerns that Matchy will be releasing the single close to Ayu's release. Here are some quotes: (open spoiler for more)

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by Max_ZZZ

honestly isn't there some guy who is releasing three days early
like... this really old johny guy LOL

honestly if there was anyone i'd be worried about him

Originally Posted by Crystal_Ageha

I have no clue what you're talking about, but that definitely sounds threatening, lol. XD

Originally Posted by KarenPang

LOLLL

I have no idea on what Max_ZZZ's talking about too -_-'''

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

That person is right - Masahiko Kondo is releasing a single on 12/13 to commemorate his 30th anniversary. He is one of the most famous Johnny's ever in Japan. I'm not sure when the last time he released a single was though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masahiko_Kondo

If he becomes a promotin' machine, it has the possibility to make things interesting maybe. Big maybe.

Originally Posted by KarenPang

WHAT she's up against Matchy ?!?! @_@ @_@ @_@

oh dear not good & yeah he's considered a legend in the Johnny's talent agency

sheesh T_T

But I might have the confidence because of their past performance, the fact that I think the past fans of Matchy are kind of quite old that they might just have to get busy with their lives, and maybe their off-date: (also open spoiler for more)

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

^ I think it all depends on how much he actually promotes it. The last single I think I remember him releasing was sometime around 2005 - he did lots of tv promotion and I think it sold fairly well. But then I just read that last year he released a single that sold next to nothing though. However, that may have been some kind of special limited release or something because I don't remember hearing anything about it and I follow both Oricon and Johnny's.

Originally Posted by KarenPang

I know that he formed a temporary unit with Johnny Junior band QUESTION ? 4 years ago & they released a single for the NARUTO - Shippuden anime called Mezamero! Yasei & the band was called MATCHY with QUESTION ?

& that's true , it all depends on how much promo's being given to Matchy since man he's a legend in the talent agency so there

-MOTTO- will only be released in 1 edition while You were ... / BALLAD will get 3 editions

lol basically from this week all to the way to end of Nov , it's bad bad bad to release singles that's al I'm saying

Originally Posted by Max_ZZZ

LOL see I'm not crazy

ya my friend was telling me about him... but he said not to worry? his last single was in the early 2000's and didn't sell over 100K i think?

BUT HONESTLY
after Mirrorcle World i NEEEEVER believe the "no need to worry line"
i smell an oncoming battle LOL

Originally Posted by Rody!

according to the Japanese wikipedia, That singer had his last #1-single in 1987. After that he had many more singles, but none reached #1.. So.. I think Ayu is safe

Originally Posted by KarenPang

^ thanks for that

the only Johnny's bands that I don't listen to are mainly the seniors like SMAP , TOKIO & the occasional MATCHY

since from that piece of info that MATCHY with QUESTION ? doesn't seem to be a strong single seller , I can't imagine for his solo singles's sales & let alone chart positions o_O

What my analysis is that Ayu is releasing at a regular date on a Wednesday, while Matchy is off on a Sunday. But usually, when you take a look at Oricon sales charts, generally the week goes between Monday and Sunday, while the sales usually start out on the day prior to the actual "official" release date.

By my estimate, Matchy could be starting from the Saturday sales ranking, while Ayu's usually starting it sales ranking from Tuesday. And generally, the most number of sales for any specified single day is at the day before the "official" release date; I think that means that Matchy could be competing more on the previous week than Ayu's, while Ayu would be competing more on the week after the week Matchy is kind of competing.

And generally, after the first day, the day sales numbers usually decline, so I think that Ayu might get a shot at this. But no matter what, I think she's on the line. Anything could really happen, as many young people today usually focus on today's scene, such as Ayu, Ayaka, Arashi and other "young" Japanese pop artists. He's 45, and Ayu's 31 - his peak was sometime in the mid-to-late 1980s, and he's no longer at his peak - he was a race car driver! So we REALLY think that Ayu's ready for it...

[Picaflor 7/4]

^ I agree. But maybe she enjoys that tight knit community. Maybe she feels an international team ayu wouldn't do well or something. I bet she doesn't even realize she has as many fans as she does. ^^

still annoyed about that red line song. I would have liked it if it were like "Red line ~dedication to my fans" or "~thank you ayumi supporters~" or something, but no. lets just thank team ayu cause they're apparently the only supporters you have.

keep this up and they will be. >.>

[Not~Yet]

^^-Or then just "Red Line" and a "this song is dedicated to Team Ayu" text somewhere in the credits of the single or something. Since I guess the song isn't really especially written for TA but they encouraged her to add one more song? (at least I hope that's the way it is -_-)

..or just Red Line ~thank you~..

@maikaru: buuut... She's very aware of her other fans at least in Asia, isn't she?


But yeah, I don't have a huge problem with the ~for TA~ as long as the song's lyrics aren't like... "Whenever I'm down.... You send me messages and a tear falls down my cheek... You are my heart's reason to live.... Lalalalaa Team Ayu... Woah yeah Team Ayuuu..."

[Not~Yet]

Oh and I just remembered, to add to her Asia Tours... When she filmed MW in Paris she met her European fans too, right? So she must be very aware that there's tons of fans outside of TA.

[Maemi]

I hope there won't be like 50 pages of "OMG I am so jealous of TA, I deserve it too!!! God I also buy her stuff and support her!!!!! Why is avex so stupid and selfish!!!"

It's like a[knot] for Dir en grey. Only japanese fans can get some limited things and news. Everyone wants an international TA, but it's not like you're going to die if they don't open TA for other countries too. It's not so easy to translate, arrange everything. Maybe they don't have time or they simply want it to be limited. I see nothing wrong about that. I don't need her diaries, blankets and towels. I anyway can get all translations and things on internet. But it would be cool to have it in Europe.

Also, there are other ways of getting into TA even if you're not in Japan

[Kanzaki]

I hope there won't be like 50 pages of "OMG I am so jealous of TA, I deserve it too!!! God I also buy her stuff and support her!!!!! Why is avex so stupid and selfish!!!"

Which was absolutely not what I said, if that's what you mean.
I am getting tired of the constant mentioning of the TA, while I never hear her even mentioning the regular members.
Anyway, that's just how I feel.

[Maemi]

@identity oh I'm sure you'll be able to get them on net, or at least similar almost everything they get, we get later translated/edited, because there is always someone from TA who makes a scans and photos. It's not a big deal, but I'm the one who can't understand that because I'm not a hard-die fan. I just wish one day I'll be able to buy some older albums even then they'll be of no use...

@Kanzaki88 I was not reffering to you, but to everyone ^^

[waterballoon]

well the TA is ALL thing started a while after the GUILTY era... I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like she's depending emotionally wayyyy too much on TA to get past her traumas in 2007 (break-up, friend's death, ear)... there's nothing wrong in showing appreciation but I feel she's as if showing that she is where she is because of TA, which is true to a certain extent, but I don't really think it's healthy when you build your emotional health on something else.

[lividlillies]

I don't think we should interpret Red Line as just for the official TA. Because, by being her fans and supporting her in the small ways we can, aren't we part of a Team Ayu? Couldn't we interpret it as a thank-you to her fanbase and not just the fanclub?

I think Ayu is well aware of her other fans and their support and I don't think she's saying "TA" to be malicious. To say "~for my fans~" doesn't have quite the same ring, right? Calling it a team makes it seem really close knit, like everyone is supporting each other, not just Ayu. Saying "fans" gives the impression of thousands of people alone (in comparison).

Even if I'm not part of the fanclub, I can think of myself as "Team Ayu", because that's the "team" that I support. I'm not "Team Hikki" or "Team Kuu". I'm Team Ayu!

Well, that's how I feel. I think I can enjoy the song better if I think of it in this way, rather than, "Well, this song isn't for me."