Thoughts on 'talkin' 2 myself' full version

[Dustie]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Wait, where did we hear about Japanese fans not liking Ayu? O_o All we know of is like, complaining overseas fan who don't like what they get, and whine about how they can't get what they want >>

Not so much "Japanese fans", but just "Japanese".
We percieve Ayu differently than people in Japan, she's a goddes to us, and certainly to many Japanese fans, but she's also a mainstream performer, she used to be an idol (now she's more like a diva) and that is not something that everyone enjoys without hesitation. For example, rock fans in Japan - I'm pretty sure they dislike mainstream pop and were never fond of such personas as Namie or Hamasaki. I think it's the same way as with western pop acts - while Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys or Britney Spears were the top of the world to some, they were also the absolute evil to others.

[namiie]

Originally Posted by alt.total-loser

Just wondering... is Bunglur really Shavoingin?

Haha, yes they are the same (incredibly sad) person.

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Wait, where did we hear about Japanese fans not liking Ayu? O_o All we know of is like, complaining overseas fan who don't like what they get, and whine about how they can't get what they want >>

I've noticed that a lot of people who are losing interest in her/just don't like her in the first place often make this argument. "Oh Ayu's prime in Japan is over anyway. No one likes her anymore" blah blah. I think it's impossible to find out the truth either one way or the other, unless someone actually GOES to Japan and conducts an extensive survey XP

My friend is doing study abroad over there right now, and from his experience, his fellow Japanese classmates are telling him that they like her earlier music better; her Duty/I am... days. But that's just one group of people among many.

[truehappiness]

I think Japanese people just generally see Ayu too much when new releases come out, so there's a bit of a weird feeling towards Ayu.


Like my feeling towards Britney Spears gossip at ONTD. UGH.

[ImpactBreaker]

The song is great, but the first time I listened to the whole thing, I had the feeling it will get old pretty quicklçy for me, just like until that Day... did.....I just hope it won't

[namiie]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Like my feeling towards Britney Spears gossip at ONTD. UGH.

Lol I love ONTD. It's been my two-hour study break since 2005 XD; But yeah, I can see what you're saying. Ayu's everywhere there so I guess they have to get tired of her once in a while. I'd much rather have Ayu news be everywhere, though, because Ayu will most likely be wearing something non trailer park-y

[JaysenRyan]

i absolutely, positively, undoubtedly LOVE this dang song. It's THE best rock song she's done. Sound like the perfect blend of Ayu-pop, and Ayu-Rock, with a hint of Within Temptation hidden in it. Add some jalapeno sauce and SIZZLE!

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by all.night.raver

^ I do not think sales will top glitter/fated. Although this song is better, I don't think the Japanese fans will like it more than glitter/fated. Maybe non-Ayu fans, but they might be "too embarrassed" to actually go out and purchase it.

Embarassed?? LMAO a lot of from ayu's fanbase it's by new fans that come and go or new and fresh! Otherwise she couldn't sell as much.

talkin' 2 myself has high chances of outselling glitter/fated in a big way.

I never heard from my japanese friends about people who are embarassed to buy ayu's cds lol that's insane to be embarrased about it X_X.

Btw someone said here that she should go more on rock, well after the next rock single people will be already tired from her rock the japanese get tired of things REALLY quick and so people in our forum .
Usually when a single gets a lot of positive opinions from the forum users in here the single's ending up selling a lot XD.

[Peger]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Why would anyone be embarrassed to purchase an Ayu CD? LOL

That applies more to C-ute and the H!P..

On the contrary, I don't think most Japanese people would be embarassed to buy H!P CD's at all. They have a drastically different sense of what's cool/socially acceptable than the west. I think people would be more embrassed to buy material from someone like Kuu, who defies the notion of what a Japanese woman is supposed to be.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by Peger

On the contrary, I don't think most Japanese people would be embarassed to buy H!P CD's at all. They have a drastically different sense of what's cool/socially acceptable than the west. I think people would be more embrassed to buy material from someone like Kuu, who defies the notion of what a Japanese woman is supposed to be.

From a foreigner's perspective, probably. But I think that the sales figures show a different side of the story D:

[Lumine]

dark rock *-*

love it totally <3

yay

I already put it on my mp4

i can't stop listening to it

can't wait for 'decisions'

[g~sus~]

a great PV will come out!! yays..

[s1012h]

i don't think ayu's ever had an actual PURE rock single...
and here it is finally!

[xCHELLy]

I think it's a great song. Though there is a little too much bass, but the song is indeed good.

[kaneda1230]

Is an awsome song! So powerfull, and her voice is stronger!!! *______*

I´ll be a sucess! = D!!!!

[ExodusUK]

I think it's great

[Zeke.]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

Embarassed?? LMAO a lot of from ayu's fanbase it's by new fans that come and go or new and fresh! Otherwise she couldn't sell as much.

talkin' 2 myself has high chances of outselling glitter/fated in a big way.

I never heard from my japanese friends about people who are embarassed to buy ayu's cds lol that's insane to be embarrased about it X_X.

Btw someone said here that she should go more on rock, well after the next rock single people will be already tired from her rock the japanese get tired of things REALLY quick and so people in our forum .
Usually when a single gets a lot of positive opinions from the forum users in here the single's ending up selling a lot XD.

Actually I think it is the opposite. Whenever I read about many forum members loving the single/album, it doesn't sell as well as we would expect. Take Secret for example. Everyone loved it and thought it was her best album in a while. I definitely liked it better than (miss)understood, but it didn't sell up to expectations.

[hiroshi_ben]

its awesome!!!fans from japan are liking it too!!

[fanmail]

what's happeninnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng!!?!?!?!??!?! It's starting to bore me already

Originally Posted by namiie

I'd much rather prefer rock songs with such well done composition to match Ayu's voice like this one than, say...another "HONEY". That song is fun, but it's not really a fine show of what Ayu's really capable of.

"HONEY" *shudder* -_-"

[YumeHamasaki]

this song is up there with b&D on the unique level for me^^. It might be rock, but it's a whole diff turn on i so that's why it's with B&D. (even though that song was really really really uncalled for lol) i love the song soooooooooo much at the moment! But that's how i feel about most songs when i first hear it so...give me a week...

[Rickumi]

didn´t like.