ARENA TOUR 2009 A ~NEXT LEVEL~ setlist and pictures [V] - Page 18

aloopy · #1 23rd October 2009, 07:26 PM

waaaay too many dancers on stage. looks messy.

noidea · #2 23rd October 2009, 07:31 PM

great visuals it seems, but her voice is really horrible, from this it seems like her worst tour vocally since....AT02, so much screaming, so many off notes...at least theres not much playback in this tour

noidea · #3 23rd October 2009, 09:11 PM

^ With vocal lessons it would be no problem at all to get better again, but to me it seems like she doesn't take them or does not regularly take them. With only one ear you can sing just as good, you just need to learn it partly again

Crystal_Ageha · #4 24th October 2009, 12:43 AM

^ Lol. XP It looks cool, though.

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael

I think that the "problem" is that a lot of people might not like her singing nowadays because she sings on lower keys a lot of parts from songs that should be sang higher pitched. She does goes off pitch (mainly lower) here and there but still from those vids there were just small parts in 3 songs where she went off key to a lower one but still she sang well in most of this video. Just in her singing of nowadays.
She still can be great vocally (as she was in many songs on PCDL 08-09 and almost all of a-nation '09).

I actually love~ her lower voice. It's why I prefer her recent singing to the beginning of her career. Even if she screams every note for the rest of her career, it's still better than the squeaking of A Song for XX, lol. >.>'

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219

She's half deaf

Yeah, but she didn't just go deaf the past year. It's been a while now, but she just suddenly started screaming everything. :\

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Originally Posted by noidea

^ With vocal lessons it would be no problem at all to get better again, but to me it seems like she doesn't take them or does not regularly take them. With only one ear you can sing just as good, you just need to learn it partly again

If the screaming is from being partially deaf (which it definitely could be), lessons - or more specifically, training - would definitely help. A teacher guiding her to practice her pitch and become much more familiar with the notes would assure her accuracy without the need to scream. Of course, she won't be able to ever sing again as if she still had 100% hearing, but she could get to the point where really only she would notice her loss of hearing.

Evolution7/4 · #5 24th October 2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by noidea

^ With vocal lessons it would be no problem at all to get better again, but to me it seems like she doesn't take them or does not regularly take them. With only one ear you can sing just as good, you just need to learn it partly again

Do they offer vocals lessons where thousands of fans scream in the background and the music is played at extremely loud volumes?

Kidding. I dont particularly think her voice is that bad and its certainly gotten better since 2008.
theres no doubting her TV lives (like for Music Station and such) are better than her arena tours, because there isnt as much noise and she isnt singing song after song.

love in music · #6 24th October 2009, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Evolution7/4

Do they offer vocals lessons where thousands of fans scream in the background and the music is played at extremely loud volumes?

Kidding. I dont particularly think her voice is that bad and its certainly gotten better since 2008.
theres no doubting her TV lives (like for Music Station and such) are better than her arena tours, because there isnt as much noise and she isnt singing song after song.

ia. i do think she has improved, especially from last year. and i remember her saying in her diary entries that most of the time she can't even hear herself at all when she's on stage now, which could explain the shouting.

SunshineSlayer · #7 24th October 2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by identity

ia. i do think she has improved, especially from last year. and i remember her saying in her diary entries that most of the time she can't even hear herself at all when she's on stage now, which could explain the shouting.

I don't recall that diary entry for some reason.

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Originally Posted by DEEP RIVER

Um has Ayu always sung evolution with a playback track? @_______@

There is some performances where it has been highly suspected, maybe even confirmed.

But in this one it sounds just like a backing track to me so that she is more free to do the "woah yeah" parts.

GRACE · #8 23rd October 2009, 09:50 PM

wow her voice sounds good in Sparkle ._.

I hope that's part of the TV version <3

labello · #9 23rd October 2009, 09:51 PM

Sparkle sounds really awesome!!!
I can't wait to see the concert

I don't think she'll get better vocally.
AT05 was the best tour vocal vise in my opinion and now that she is half deaf I don't think she'll get better~

**ayumisrael** · #10 23rd October 2009, 09:59 PM

I think that the "problem" is that a lot of people might not like her singing nowadays because she sings on lower keys a lot of parts from songs that should be sang higher pitched. She does goes off pitch (mainly lower) here and there but still from those vids there were just small parts in 3 songs where she went off key to a lower one but still she sang well in most of this video. Just in her singing of nowadays.
She still can be great vocally (as she was in many songs on PCDL 08-09 and almost all of a-nation '09).

JackieRos · #11 23rd October 2009, 10:30 PM

from what im seeing im not going to like this concert
i dont mind her vocals they are very good

we will just have to see until the concert dvd is out
but she looks amazing as always

noidea · #12 23rd October 2009, 10:34 PM

^
^
a-nation '09 was heavily and obviously edited, more than many DVDs, I think you can't really count that one, but it wasn't only for Ayu, most artists sounded pretty fishy, it was worst for Kuu

but I agree with the first part of your post, especially because I like her singing the songs lower more xD I hate voices that are highpitched all the way through, prefer people that stay low for the most part and go high for some short parts or single notes only

emikoishida · #13 23rd October 2009, 10:57 PM

Yeah, her voice is getting worse. But, let's remember, in the tour DVD, no doubt, her vocals will be a little edited.

emikoishida · #14 23rd October 2009, 11:02 PM

http://img.barks.jp/image/review/100...w_barks_jp.jpg

The glove...look at the sparkly glove...isn't that new? *coughcoughcough* Michael jackson...

Polyrhythm · #15 24th October 2009, 01:29 AM

Um has Ayu always sung evolution with a playback track? @_______@

OogoeDiamond · #16 24th October 2009, 01:38 AM

I think she wont make more concert in Japan due to TV broadcast

Andrenekoi · #17 24th October 2009, 01:50 AM

Well... vocal lessons would really help... but is not like... starting it today and singing flawlessly on the next week, those stuff take some time... it seens worst cuz it affected her voice for 2 tours... but she has one tour a year, while the usual for most singers would be a tour and 2, 3 years without touring...

Still, her voice is getting better compared to last year...

Andrenekoi · #18 24th October 2009, 01:54 AM

if that's true, that would totally explain the shouting >_<
singing without listening to yourself is 100% chance of disaster @_@

SunshineSlayer · #19 24th October 2009, 01:55 AM

^ She should at least have an in ear monitors though.(it appears that she does) Plus I don't really remember that statement or it could be a mistranslation as often happens with her crazy diary entries.

truehappiness · #20 24th October 2009, 02:04 AM

I don't think her TV lives have ever been better than her tour lives. There are only a handful of TV lives that really demonstrate good vocals imo. I feel a bit bad for Ayu since almost every time she sounds good, someone comes in to say that it's probably been edited/backing track'd up the wazoo.