[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~A SUMMER BEST~

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

^^ they are only official to oricon.
The reverse can be said about that too.
They can only choose to report 20 million copies sold. (which they do pick and choose how they want to show how many copies have been sold, example from the concert sales again.)
Oricon is just one company, they cant track everything. Which yet again I say its best to chose a number between the two companies.

I also think a good single would spark interest.. I mean look at what Blue Bird did.
Japan loves that single and it came from ayumi in the middle of her declining sales.

Again, the same can be said about Avex... they can announce bigger sales than the actual ones... in the end of the day, that's why Oricon doesn't consider all the concert reported sales.

[TeamAyu2004]

^ Because its an amazing song.
Season on the other hand... I could ask the same question.

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Again, the same can be said about Avex... they can announce bigger sales than the actual ones... in the end of the day, that's why Oricon doesn't consider all the concert reported sales.

actually, it wouldn't be beneficial at all for avex to lie about how many copies they sell.
If they sell more then what they did it only hunts them on the books for profit margins and taxes.

if anything, it would make more sense for them to report less sales then what they actually did sell.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

actually, it wouldn't be beneficial at all for avex to lie about how many copies they sell.
If they sell more then what they did it only hunts them on the books for profit margins and taxes.

if anything, it would make more sense for them to report less sales then what they actually did sell.

Considering the amount of time a lot of people from her fandom, you included, spend discussing her sales, and how she have overall monster sales, and if she sold or not 50million copies, I would say it's very beneficial for them to lie about it.

The most stupid it is, some people only followed her and bought her stuff because she had big sales... Even on this forum some people seen to be like that.

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Considering the amount of time a lot of people from her fandom, you included, spend discussing her sales, and how she have overall monster sales, and if she sold or not 50million copies, I would say it's very beneficial for them to lie about it.

Um, you are missing the entire point of why it's NOT beneficial.
Just because people talk about it doesnt mean anything.
Someone saying: Ayumi has sold a trillion copies of something does nothing for anybody.
Yet again. Reasons why its not beneficial in avex's case is profit margins and tax fraud. If they lie about it its tax fraud and messes with their stock, which would piss off the board and throw off how much money they are actually making. Not even going to go into the problems about the stock market (ENRON scandal anyone?)

So no. It is not beneficial for avex to lie about stuff like that.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

Um, you are missing the entire point of why it's NOT beneficial.
Just because people talk about it doesnt mean anything.
Someone saying: Ayumi has sold a trillion copies of something does nothing for anybody.
Yet again. Reasons why its not beneficial in avex's case is profit margins and tax fraud. If they lie about it its tax fraud and messes with their stock, which would piss off the board and throw off how much money they are actually making. Not even going to go into the problems about the stock market (ENRON scandal anyone?)

So no. It is not beneficial for avex to lie about stuff like that.

what they report on their taxes and what they tell the public are two different things lol

You might not even be able to tell any of this information..

although I remember looking at one of their budget reports to the stockholders once...and I think it had information relevant to ayu's sales. I think it had percentages of their profit.

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by emi♡

what they report on their taxes and what they tell the public are two different things lol

You not understanding either I guess.
What they tell the public effects them. They wouldnt lie to negatively effect them and telling people that they sold more then what they actually did negatively effects them.

It's bad business. They wouldn't do it.
Although the way avex has been handling certain products I would be all that surprised if they did shot themselves in the foot every once in awhile.